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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by swiley »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #165
mimsee wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What they could do is put the contents in a video* and have the media be DRM'd. You couldn't take a screenshot, only a picture with your phone. *Or image, not really sure if that works.

Can you actually DRM a video so that the OS won't let it be screenshotted? I usually use the snipping tool for Windows screenshots, does DRM stop that working somehow?

I don’t think it will on Linux, I could have sworn I’ve watched Netflix with just the EFI framebuffer. If that worked then there’s no way any sort of DRM that can be viewed on Linux would stop this.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by bbbobbb »

cdancette wrote: post #170
bbbobbb wrote: post #168

I guess there is no incentive for google to support this properly but the web client is completely pointless for anybody who has multiple gmail adresses. I want to see my stuff in a combined inbox.

there's an option in gmail labs to activate multiple accounts, I've never tried it though

I think I have tried that and have it enabled but the result is completely pointless.

1) it does not combined inboxes (at least I see no option to view the other emails)

2) it only allows you to send emails from the different accounts. Emphasis on the "From" - the sender will still be the original email address, so that is completely useless for combination of like a public and private email.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by Boulth »

kroberton wrote: post #164
amelius wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it open-source like protonmail?

Yep: https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/ Devs say they want to publish the app on F-Droid. https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/secure-mail-open-source

Did I get this right: the client is open source while the service that works in the backend and does 80% of the job is closed source?

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by Boulth »

kroberton wrote: post #157
Promarged wrote: post #144

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I just tested tutanota. The interface is clean and nice but the encryption to external contacts is the same as in Gmail (link back to tutanota and shared passwords). Why can't these services use something like OpenPGP's Web Key Discovery [0] fetching key from https://domain.com/.well-known/openpgp/hu/hash-for-localpart and avoid links altogether? [0]: https://www.gnupg.org/blog/20160830-web-key-service.html

Avoiding links is the ultimate goal, hopefully Tutanota will integrate your suggestion or something similar. I've moved my entire family to Tutanota, which also works quite well. But you'll never convince everybody... As far as I know self-destruct emails in Gmail are not end-to-end encrypted.

Good to hear, I'm also interested in that (hushmail, mailbox.org also use link backs).

Is there an issue tracker or a mailing list where one can subscribe and see when this would be available?

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by jbob2000 »

OmarIsmail wrote: post #45

The most exciting news here is that they're iterating on Gmail again. It was clear that Gmail was stagnating for a while as they were investing in Inbox. It's unfortunate that Inbox didn't take off, but now that it looks like they're putting the effort behind Gmail proper, we'll be seeing continual updates and improvements. In just the past 6 months we've seen native Gmail add-ons (that work across web and mobile) an…

Inbox didn’t take off? That’s news to me! It’s the only way I use gmail, I haven’t used the old interface since inbox was released. It pairs with the mobile app really well.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by amelius »

Boulth wrote: post #175
kroberton wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep: https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/ Devs say they want to publish the app on F-Droid. https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/secure-mail-open-source

Did I get this right: the client is open source while the service that works in the backend and does 80% of the job is closed source?

So the source isn't of much use except for verifying that the encryption is robust?

How is that for protonmail?

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by bbbobbb »

kroberton wrote: post #139
ankitank wrote: post #135

Actually, the new gmail is: https://protonmail.com/

Agreed. And: https://tutanota.com/ Gmail used to be good alright, but then it started to ask for my phone number all the time. I've switched to Tutanota recently, much better IMO, particularly the new client: https://mail.tutanota.com/

The design with multiple domains is pretty annoying.

So I register bob@tutanota.com but forget to register bob@tutanota.de and anybody can squat it and impersonate me from the same service?

Not to mention they blocked my IP after registering 3 of the 5 available domains.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by drwu »

kroberton wrote: post #139
ankitank wrote: post #135

Actually, the new gmail is: https://protonmail.com/

Agreed. And: https://tutanota.com/ Gmail used to be good alright, but then it started to ask for my phone number all the time. I've switched to Tutanota recently, much better IMO, particularly the new client: https://mail.tutanota.com/

I would use tutanota if they could change a simpler domain.

When I wake up on the second morning after I've registered an email account, it was impossible for me to remember whether the domain was tunanota, notatuna, nonanuta or tutanote...

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