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A rundown of the new Gmail

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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

#142

Moved off google products completely. A few years ago I would probably have been excited about this but today I can’t shake the cynic telling me everything they do is to just spy more efficiently.

Was thinking of deleting my Google account completely and moving over to FastMail but I wish they had a free option like user@fastmail.com for no cost. But then again, I do like no ads.

I am on the standard plan at $5 per month. I feel it is money well spent and I can configure my own domains also for email - saves me the money on the Google Apps business thing, which I only had for the email functionality.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #19

"Finally, a new confidential mode allows you to remove the option to forward, copy, download or print messages—useful for when you have to send sensitive information via email like a tax return or your social security number. You can also make a message expire after a set period of time to help you stay in control of your information." No, thanks. I like my e-mail archive under my own control.

It sounds like another way to get people to visit google sites. Presumably if you email someone who isn't on gmail they will get a link they have to open in a browser, and unless you enable invasive javascript, you will not be able to view the message.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

#144

Actually, the new gmail is: https://protonmail.com/

Agreed. And: https://tutanota.com/ Gmail used to be good alright, but then it started to ask for my phone number all the time. I've switched to Tutanota recently, much better IMO, particularly the new client: https://mail.tutanota.com/

I just tested tutanota. The interface is clean and nice but the encryption to external contacts is the same as in Gmail (link back to tutanota and shared passwords).

Why can't these services use something like OpenPGP's Web Key Discovery [0] fetching key from https://domain.com/.well-known/openpgp/hu/hash-for-localpart and avoid links altogether?

[0]: https://www.gnupg.org/blog/20160830-web-key-service.html

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #126
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate update and always have. New products are exciting. Updates are what product managers do when they don't have any idea for a new product and want to justify their existence. It's like "reforms" in politics. Successful products should be left alone. Of course they never will, and we suffer. I understand that complaining about it is like complaining about the weather... yet I can't help myself.

So... do you like that Google released a dozen of IM programs so far instead of working on one single product and regularly updating it?

Upvoted! You got me... ;-)

I guess by "new product" I mean something addressing a new problem in a new way. A new function, not a new skin, which all these updates seem to be.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

#147
post #19

"Finally, a new confidential mode allows you to remove the option to forward, copy, download or print messages—useful for when you have to send sensitive information via email like a tax return or your social security number. You can also make a message expire after a set period of time to help you stay in control of your information." No, thanks. I like my e-mail archive under my own control.

Lame feature. Take screenshot. File / forward to circumvent.

As long as people have cellphones with cameras anything sent to them has to be considered 'open'.

At the same time, sending internal payroll information and such is something that can, and does, get accidentally forwarded.

This feature is less about "perfect security" and more about making sure the dumb-dumbs who work in other departments don't shoot themselves in the foot.

Awesome feature. Fire people who are blatantly mishandling confidential material.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

#148
post #50
post #4

It looks like the good things of Inbox are now in Gmail. That would explain the lack of updates on the Inbox iOS App (which still doesn't have proper iPhone X support)?

Let alone that the app is abysmally slow on an iPhone 5s. Even if your inbox (not "done" emails) features 7 emails and 3 new emails come in, the app doesn't even fetch them fully and loads them one-at-a-time upon opening. And the inbox.google.com web interface does the exact same thing! It also gets stuck for several seconds when pressing "done" on a lone email in a group, showing an empty group for a while until it…

You can try Airmail or Edison Mail for iOS. I find it much appealing than Gmail app
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