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A rundown of the new Gmail

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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by roenxi »

Applejinx wrote: post #77
hedgew wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each year the internet and its services are less and less for hackers and more and more for the general public. This is reflected in how everything is designed. The average person has totally different needs and usage patterns than power users. If you want to avoid this phenomena, where the services you use slowly degrade and lose features, favor products that specifically target power users. Products for the general…

You're assuming changes have any utility towards people in general. There are times changes will be made because they benefit the service provider at the expense of the user, because the service provider's interests are not at all the same thing as the user's interests. I realize it's axiomatic that 'to serve the customer is self-evidently the best thing for the service provider, because capitalism', but by now I thi…

Customer: a person who buys goods or services from a shop or business.

Gmail users are clearly not customers, they are not paying anything for it. Your cynicism against capitalism is unwarranted in this case.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by donttrack »

sdrothrock wrote: post #102
donttrack wrote: post #27

Moved off google products completely. A few years ago I would probably have been excited about this but today I can’t shake the cynic telling me everything they do is to just spy more efficiently.

What did you end up moving to for e-mail?

Fastmail.. Was a customer with them way back, when they started, but moved over to GMail, when I got my account there in 2004. Back to Fastmail since last year..

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by [deleted] »

bernardino wrote: post #125
donttrack wrote: post #27

Moved off google products completely. A few years ago I would probably have been excited about this but today I can’t shake the cynic telling me everything they do is to just spy more efficiently.

Was thinking of deleting my Google account completely and moving over to FastMail but I wish they had a free option like user@fastmail.com for no cost. But then again, I do like no ads.

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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by lou1306 »

sideshowb wrote: post #58
mrarjen wrote: post #10

This reminds me I still need to get rid of some 3k+ emails in my inbox... thanks Google!

Afaiac the whole point of gmail is that you don't have to get rid of anything from your inbox.

Your inbox != All your emails. There was this "Inbox Zero" thing/philosophy/cult out there years ago, and some of its tenets are pretty interesting.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by golergka »

gepi79 wrote: post #56
hedgew wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each year the internet and its services are less and less for hackers and more and more for the general public. This is reflected in how everything is designed. The average person has totally different needs and usage patterns than power users. If you want to avoid this phenomena, where the services you use slowly degrade and lose features, favor products that specifically target power users. Products for the general…

"The average person has totally different needs and usage patterns than power users." There is no average person. Different person have different use cases and preferences. No person wants known liked things to be removed or made less good. Apple devices are meant for Apple power users. I use Windows and Linux (KDE) and I am uncomfortable and constraint on Mac OS. There is a reason why people spend (or spent) hours t…

> No person wants known liked things to be removed or made less good.

Have you missed dozes of HN posts and threads about git being overcomplicated and overengineered? A lot of software engineers would love for git to remove a lot of features they don't use because they find it too complex. (For the record, I personally don't agree with them at all, but it is a very popular opinion).

Hell, many routinely rebase and squash commits for the sake of simplicity, throwing out a truthful development history.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by kroberton »

ankitank wrote: post #135

Actually, the new gmail is: https://protonmail.com/

Agreed. And: https://tutanota.com/

Gmail used to be good alright, but then it started to ask for my phone number all the time. I've switched to Tutanota recently, much better IMO, particularly the new client: https://mail.tutanota.com/

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by golergka »

samstave wrote: post #129
sterlind wrote: post #62

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For example, my setup: Gmail: any email service Android: root it, use a custom launcher and utility apps. GMaps: Waze (lets you provide your own speech samples, even) You don't have to secede from these whole platforms - just extend around them and reach into them.

Pffft You’re examples: Google Google Google. Your examples are all fucking google.

So? These are still different products, even if they happen to be acquired by the same company.
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