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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by icebraining »

maxk42 wrote: post #84
eksu wrote: post #22

There is reason to be concerned with time expiring messages and other features that fragment the web and email, ultimately making us all more dependent on Google Services.

I use gmail as an archive of all the data / communications I've ever received. Now that messages will expire and be removed from this archive I suppose it's time to look at alternatives.

How will that help you? If you receive one of those emails from a Gmail user, it will probably only contain a link, not the content. So you still won't be able to archive it.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by czechdeveloper »

steve19 wrote: post #23
pferde wrote: post #19

"Finally, a new confidential mode allows you to remove the option to forward, copy, download or print messages—useful for when you have to send sensitive information via email like a tax return or your social security number. You can also make a message expire after a set period of time to help you stay in control of your information." No, thanks. I like my e-mail archive under my own control.

Anyone know how this works with IMAP? Does it just not show up in IMAP, otherwise forwarding etc. is trivial (ignoring the fact that you could just screenshot the message and send the screenshot)

I'd expect they will just send you link to view message in browser. So you will not be able to view message normally unless you use Gmail and that is probably goal of this feature.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by aero-002 »

hedgew wrote: post #20
gambiting wrote: post #12

Am I the only one that dreads new product updates recently? I used to be super enthusiastic about every new update for everything(cool! more stuff!) but Android, Youtube and Windows 10 updates especially have made me extremely jaded - it feels like every update I either lose some functionality or something I used every day has now moved to a completely different place for no good reason. I seriously consider disablin…

Each year the internet and its services are less and less for hackers and more and more for the general public. This is reflected in how everything is designed. The average person has totally different needs and usage patterns than power users. If you want to avoid this phenomena, where the services you use slowly degrade and lose features, favor products that specifically target power users. Products for the general…

fucking normies

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by bernardino »

donttrack wrote: post #27

Moved off google products completely. A few years ago I would probably have been excited about this but today I can’t shake the cynic telling me everything they do is to just spy more efficiently.

Was thinking of deleting my Google account completely and moving over to FastMail but I wish they had a free option like user@fastmail.com for no cost. But then again, I do like no ads.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by r3bl »

bambax wrote: post #73
gambiting wrote: post #12

Am I the only one that dreads new product updates recently? I used to be super enthusiastic about every new update for everything(cool! more stuff!) but Android, Youtube and Windows 10 updates especially have made me extremely jaded - it feels like every update I either lose some functionality or something I used every day has now moved to a completely different place for no good reason. I seriously consider disablin…

I hate update and always have. New products are exciting. Updates are what product managers do when they don't have any idea for a new product and want to justify their existence. It's like "reforms" in politics. Successful products should be left alone. Of course they never will, and we suffer. I understand that complaining about it is like complaining about the weather... yet I can't help myself.

So... do you like that Google released a dozen of IM programs so far instead of working on one single product and regularly updating it?

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by DocTomoe »

y_molodtsov wrote: post #94
cooper12 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Features" like these are actually worse than useless because they give users a false sense of security.

I don't understand the hate. It's still a good way to send a password or some financial information, just because you know that it's going to be deleted soon and if in the future your contact's account is hacked it will be long gone. Basically, it's a secret chat for email.

Well, i wonder how they will make other mail providers (or clients, for that matter) to honour this kind of mail headers.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by samstave »

sterlind wrote: post #62
pelario wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice thought, but what would be the alternatives for Android, Gmail, GMaps ?

For example, my setup: Gmail: any email service Android: root it, use a custom launcher and utility apps. GMaps: Waze (lets you provide your own speech samples, even) You don't have to secede from these whole platforms - just extend around them and reach into them.

Pffft

You’re examples:

Google

Google

Google.

Your examples are all fucking google.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by adanto6840 »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #29
gambiting wrote: post #12

Am I the only one that dreads new product updates recently? I used to be super enthusiastic about every new update for everything(cool! more stuff!) but Android, Youtube and Windows 10 updates especially have made me extremely jaded - it feels like every update I either lose some functionality or something I used every day has now moved to a completely different place for no good reason. I seriously consider disablin…

It's a mixed bag. Blender/Unreal/Unity3D updates are always awesome. Windows has objectively reduced functionality, like it's now nearly impossible to associate my favorite image viewer with the image files - every few weeks it resets to the windows photo viewer, which is garbage.

Unity also releases with bugs, sometimes even major regressions (75%+ performance degradation on all default UIs in initial 2017.1 general release, for instance) -- so I'm not sure I can fully buy in to your argument, but I do understand what you mean.

We usually bite the bullet just because the pros outweigh the cons -- they do indeed ship a lot of great stuff -- but a lot of problems come with that, too. We still jump when we can (so long as the cons != 75% worse performance on all UIs)! ;)

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