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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by vatueil »

bambax wrote: post #78

> New features on mobile, like high-priority notifications, can notify you of important messages to help you stay focused without interruption. Err... wat. Explain again how "high-priority notifications " will help me stay focused "without interruption". This is a new level of newspeak. The ringtone is now LOUDER, which will help you enjoy silence. Anyway, I don't care about any of this. All I want to know is if I'll…

The next sentence says: "Plus, Gmail will start suggesting when to unsubscribe from newsletters or offers you no longer care about."

And the following screenshot: https://storage.googleapis.com/gweb-uniblog-publish-prod/ima...

Shows: "Try notifications for only your most important emails: Turn on / No thanks".

So in context, the message is not that "high-priority notifications" mean louder ringtones but that (if you accept) Gmail will try to notify you only when an incoming email is important. That hopefully means fewer interruptions from newsletters and other bacn.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by [deleted] »

bambax wrote: post #78

> New features on mobile, like high-priority notifications, can notify you of important messages to help you stay focused without interruption. Err... wat. Explain again how "high-priority notifications " will help me stay focused "without interruption". This is a new level of newspeak. The ringtone is now LOUDER, which will help you enjoy silence. Anyway, I don't care about any of this. All I want to know is if I'll…

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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

#113

Post by oblio »

agildehaus wrote: post #21
mraison wrote: post #13

I can't see the "Try the new Gmail" setting. Is there a geographic/locale restriction? (I tried switching my account to English without luck)

Blog post came before they hit the big ol' deploy button.

Yeah, they went:

./publish-blog-post.sh

./deploy-gmail.sh

instead of the other way around :p

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by chatmasta »

2RTZZSro wrote: post #47
pelario wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice thought, but what would be the alternatives for Android, Gmail, GMaps ?

Alternative for Android? puri.sm phone. DIY rpi phone. Gmail? Fastmail. GMaps? OpenStreetMaps/OsmAnd

A DIY RPI phone? Is that a serious suggestion? Is anyone actually doing this?

And what’s the point if the baseband is not open?

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by jackpeterfletch »

bambax wrote: post #78

> New features on mobile, like high-priority notifications, can notify you of important messages to help you stay focused without interruption. Err... wat. Explain again how "high-priority notifications " will help me stay focused "without interruption". This is a new level of newspeak. The ringtone is now LOUDER, which will help you enjoy silence. Anyway, I don't care about any of this. All I want to know is if I'll…

They're just changing how they notify so that you get fewer notifs on important mail only.

Just turn them off if you dont want notifs at all.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by exikyut »

mraison wrote: post #13

I can't see the "Try the new Gmail" setting. Is there a geographic/locale restriction? (I tried switching my account to English without luck)

Same, with two accounts. Australia here, if that makes any difference.

Clearly it's a staggered rollout thing that hasn't fully taken effect. (Which is stupid, when you do this kind of thing at scale you pick an exact time to go "live", add some code that enables the flag at some point after that exact moment in time, then do a rollout early enough that all the machines in the cluster are updated with that code by the time rolls around. And then everything "just updates all at once." Why do I suspect that Google from 2006-2009 would have made the effort to do that for this update, but that nowadays it would have been deemed as too difficult or whatever...)

I wonder what happened. Maybe enabling this _now_ was a last-minute decision? Weird.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by icebraining »

Applejinx wrote: post #93
josteink wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anyone know how this works with IMAP? The email contains a link to a site controlled by Google which holds the actual "email's" content. Forwarding the email will only forward a link to an access-controlled resource.

Finally, email meets DRM!

It's not new: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/encrypt-for-ou...

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by DocTomoe »

coldtea wrote: post #69
donmb wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For gmail I use Apple mail ever since and I don't care at all about the web interface. Hence everything stays as it is because Apple Mail is probably the less updated software in the world.

And yet, it has had several major updates over different OS X releases, with new features that had been touted in the "new OS X release highlights" each time. Calling it "the less updated software in the world" shows why companies do even more frequent updates, even when they aren't needed. To avoid appearing stale.

A lot of this discrepancy is rooted in the fact that Apple does not actively try to destroy people's workflow. Changes are incremental, not decrememtal, and they do not happen to please some middle manager's itch to "change something".

They have understood something other tech companies are yet to learn: Noone uses your product because you're so modern or progressive or slick. Your product is a tool, not design porn to wank off to. Apple fanboys are overwhelmingly fanboys because Apple produces reliable tools they use to create stuff themselves, not because they dream of glossy icons at night.

We can see what happens when a company decides to degrade a "useable, reliable tool for creation" with stupid design/UX decisions in the Thinkpads, which had a fanboy group that is currently diminishing because anything post-T520 is just a sad excuse to the "reliable tool"

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by cam_l »

gambiting wrote: post #12

Am I the only one that dreads new product updates recently? I used to be super enthusiastic about every new update for everything(cool! more stuff!) but Android, Youtube and Windows 10 updates especially have made me extremely jaded - it feels like every update I either lose some functionality or something I used every day has now moved to a completely different place for no good reason. I seriously consider disablin…

Agree with you in principle, but it looks to me like most of the new 'gmail' features are actually the most successful elements introduced with 'inbox' a couple of years back.

If this is actually the way that google wants to introduce new features ie. with a thorough, long term, and importantly separate process of testing and vetting. I think that is a pretty good way to go about it.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by r3bl »

2RTZZSro wrote: post #47
pelario wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice thought, but what would be the alternatives for Android, Gmail, GMaps ?

Alternative for Android? puri.sm phone. DIY rpi phone. Gmail? Fastmail. GMaps? OpenStreetMaps/OsmAnd

Purism phone still doesn't exist. You can't buy it.

It annoys the fuck out of me when someone says that a phone that still doesn't exist and isn't available for purchase is mentioned as an "alternative".

It will become an alternative once it's out. Until such time comes, stop mentioning it when discussing alternatives.

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