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A rundown of the new Gmail

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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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I'll probably stick to Inbox because the pin/sweep workflow is really nice, but snoozing was the real game changer for me and it's good that they've put that in Gmail proper now. The follow up thing looks nice too, that'd be nice in Inbox but could be tricky if messages are archived. "This has been pinned for x days" warnings would be neat.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Each year the internet and its services are less and less for hackers and more and more for the general public. This is reflected in how everything is designed. The average person has totally different needs and usage patterns than power users. If you want to avoid this phenomena, where the services you use slowly degrade and lose features, favor products that specifically target power users. Products for the general…

Nice thought, but what would be the alternatives for Android, Gmail, GMaps ?

For example, my setup:

Gmail: any email service

Android: root it, use a custom launcher and utility apps.

GMaps: Waze (lets you provide your own speech samples, even)

You don't have to secede from these whole platforms - just extend around them and reach into them.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Am I the only one that dreads new product updates recently? I used to be super enthusiastic about every new update for everything(cool! more stuff!) but Android, Youtube and Windows 10 updates especially have made me extremely jaded - it feels like every update I either lose some functionality or something I used every day has now moved to a completely different place for no good reason. I seriously consider disablin…

Each year the internet and its services are less and less for hackers and more and more for the general public. This is reflected in how everything is designed. The average person has totally different needs and usage patterns than power users. If you want to avoid this phenomena, where the services you use slowly degrade and lose features, favor products that specifically target power users. Products for the general…

>Products for the general population, like Android, Youtube, and Windows, will over time degrade more and more towards some lowest common denominators.

There's a problem with this theory though, that the utility of some of these programs is in how many users (and thus content, etc) they have

So we can't really "favor products that specifically target power users" as YouTube or Google Maps alternatives -- or, rather, we could, but they'd be weaker in the polish, content, user base department (e.g. Vimeo or some advanced Maps platform)

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Each year the internet and its services are less and less for hackers and more and more for the general public. This is reflected in how everything is designed. The average person has totally different needs and usage patterns than power users. If you want to avoid this phenomena, where the services you use slowly degrade and lose features, favor products that specifically target power users. Products for the general…

"The average person has totally different needs and usage patterns than power users." There is no average person. Different person have different use cases and preferences. No person wants known liked things to be removed or made less good. Apple devices are meant for Apple power users. I use Windows and Linux (KDE) and I am uncomfortable and constraint on Mac OS. There is a reason why people spend (or spent) hours t…

>There is no average person. Different person have different use cases and preferences

Even so, most people are more alike than different.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each year the internet and its services are less and less for hackers and more and more for the general public. This is reflected in how everything is designed. The average person has totally different needs and usage patterns than power users. If you want to avoid this phenomena, where the services you use slowly degrade and lose features, favor products that specifically target power users. Products for the general…

So why can't we have the option of using 'power user' interfaces? Also I doubt that Youtube has ever been for powerusers..

>So why can't we have the option of using 'power user' interfaces?

Because that means more money and effort spend by the vendor to maintain 2 sets of interfaces (and extra flags and features they could just cut entirely),

and that for the benefit of a tiny sliver of its user base, and the worst and most picky at that.

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Anyone know how this works with IMAP? Does it just not show up in IMAP, otherwise forwarding etc. is trivial (ignoring the fact that you could just screenshot the message and send the screenshot)

I'm not sure that even will be available to non-Gmail users natively, probably you'll just see a link to check the message.

Yep, I think thats it. I don't remember where I saw the screenshot, but for anyone not viewing through a Gmail app or site, you get a web link to click on to view the message.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Am I the only one that dreads new product updates recently? I used to be super enthusiastic about every new update for everything(cool! more stuff!) but Android, Youtube and Windows 10 updates especially have made me extremely jaded - it feels like every update I either lose some functionality or something I used every day has now moved to a completely different place for no good reason. I seriously consider disablin…

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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Anyone able to shed any light on what is Google's strategy regarding the Inbox/Gmail split?

look here: https://www.computerworld.com/article/3269253/enterprise-app... Quote: "With respect to the upcoming Gmail announcement, there are no changes to Inbox by Gmail," a Google spokesperson tells me. "It remains a great product for users with specific workflows and one in which we test innovative features for email." My opinion: Does not sound confident for me... it will be a always beta product?!

Gmail was in beta for over five years ;)

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Am I the only one that dreads new product updates recently? I used to be super enthusiastic about every new update for everything(cool! more stuff!) but Android, Youtube and Windows 10 updates especially have made me extremely jaded - it feels like every update I either lose some functionality or something I used every day has now moved to a completely different place for no good reason. I seriously consider disablin…

For gmail I use Apple mail ever since and I don't care at all about the web interface. Hence everything stays as it is because Apple Mail is probably the less updated software in the world.

And yet, it has had several major updates over different OS X releases, with new features that had been touted in the "new OS X release highlights" each time.

Calling it "the less updated software in the world" shows why companies do even more frequent updates, even when they aren't needed. To avoid appearing stale.

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