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Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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It's in the (unwieldy) name? Have you considered changing the name to, say, Snippet Editor?

This was done long time ago when we game the appstore ranking by adding all the keywords to the app name. I haven't touched the app since like many years.

Maybe stop trying to game the system? If your product is worth anything, people will buy it without the need for tricky bullshit.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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I believe trademark laws require trademark holders to actively enforce them or they run the risk of losing the trademark when it comes up in something that actually matters. Although really Oracle should have the sense to see the state of the landscape and just drop it. It's become a generic term - in fact, it always was.

If it's the case that by not going after the user of JavaScript, they would be putting their Java trademark in peril, then perhaps a solution would be for oracle to put out a notice putting the term JavaScript under a creative commons commerical non-attribution license. That way, they keep everything 'java' protected, without the poor PR of targeting the use of the term 'JavaScript'.

Trademark is not the same thing as copyright. A work might be affected by both, but "put it under a CC license" does nothing to make the trademark freely usable. To make the trademark freely usable, they simply have to abandon it or create a liberal trademark policy like Mozilla's or Wikimedia's (or even CCs).

(IANAL.)

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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It didn't originate there, they acquired the rights to the name when they bought sun

I knew that about Java but I didn't know the same was true of JavaScript

JavaScript originated at Netscape, not Sun. I assume Sun owned the trademark because it's so close to Java)

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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I love your riff on Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to a corporate lawyer." Shall we call it Cryptonector's Razor? You invented it, you name it :) edit: someone else (not me) should name the principle that explains why so few people on HN have any sense of humor whatsoever.

> edit: someone else (not me) should name the principle that explains why so few people on HN have any sense of humor whatsoever. I think lots of people have sense of humor, but it's accepted here in very limited amount (and preferably when it's clever humor). I'd attribute this to HN being one of the few remaining places on the Internet where you can discuss serious/interesting stuff without immediately drowning in…

I agree with everything you said, but c'mon, down-voting nerd-humor is just wrong. If you don't "get" the joke, just move on; only down-vote if the humor is inappropriate. In this case, I thought my nerd-humor was welcome, and in the worst case, someone who didn't know about Hanlon's Razor would be educated and maybe have a laugh. It's not like this was toilet humor. Have a heart, HN :)

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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It does seem they always go for the path that will maximize profits, evil (note not a legal term, but a moral one) and pull everyone down to the bottom with their actions. I am convinced if there was a crossroads with a payout of x dollars for both choices, but with a pretty nasty outcome for the community for choice y as the distinguishing factor, Oracle would pick y in a heartbeat. I think a good description for Or…

Manny many years ago, I read a story about Oracle: In a big budget project, they had implemented a report, like sales per month or something similar. The requirement was to sort the result by month. Any sane person would sort it by the order the months happens in a year, like January, February, March, etc... But not Oracle: April, August, December, February, January, July, June, March, May, November, October, Septemb…

Why did they do this?

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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I thought it was premature optimisation.

No, it’s shared mutable state. The belief there is only one true instance of state, and everything must use it directly.

That's a good one, but I'll appeal to authority here and make the fallacious argument that I'm correct because Donald Knuth said so:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_optimization#When_to_o...

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