Electric Buses Are Hurting the Oil Industry

Post by DoctorOetker » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 6:37 AM UTC

fsloth wrote: post #105

abakker wrote: post #67

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I don't know if it really proves anything and it might be OT from your point, but, the confounding variable is that in the US - especially outside of the major urban areas - everything is just very far away in terms of miles. Lacking a car, you can expect life to be very difficult. there are still plenty of places in the US where the range of a tesla might be a borderline problem week-to-week. (though probably not as…

I think it is well known the car and petrol companies were heavy lobbyists in developing the transit architecture in the US (including zoning and so on) after the second world war. To exaggerate a bit, the entire country was designed to facilitate automobile sales. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_the_car_on_societ... In the continental europe most of the urban centers predate the automobile hundreds if not…

Post by black_puppydog » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 6:44 AM UTC

lenepp wrote: post #62

One interesting feature of articles like this that I don't really get is that they often leave out a huge huge quality of life benefit that electric vehicles bring: reduced urban machine noise.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 6:47 AM UTC

not_kurt_godel wrote: post #100

freddie_mercury wrote: post #92

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Obviously the US has some structural issues, otherwise it wouldn't have these persistent failures. All I'm doing is pushing back against the simplistic "but the US is so big compared to all those tiny countries". If you want to talk about density or uniform distribution... Why is Australian public transit so much better than American public transit? America's governmental structure isn't unique either. There are othe…

> Why is Australian public transit so much better than American public transit? I would guess it's because Australia is, like, 99% uninhabited and uninhabitable or borderline uninhabitable[1], which probably means they can focus resources almost exclusively on the few densely populated areas. Additionally Australia's urban population seems to be significantly higher than America's (~89% vs ~80% according to 5 seconds…

Post by fyfy18 » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 6:55 AM UTC

lenepp wrote: post #62

One interesting feature of articles like this that I don't really get is that they often leave out a huge huge quality of life benefit that electric vehicles bring: reduced urban machine noise.

Post by justinator » Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 6:55 AM UTC

pingou wrote: post #124

"they consume 30 times more fuel than average sized cars". Is that true? That seems gigantic, I thought taking so bus was so much better for the planet than taking your car.