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High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Re: High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Post by poutine »

hyperbovine wrote: post #46
poutine wrote: post #30

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It's a good strategy. Interestingly Blackwater changed their name to Xe to try and shake off the bad image. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide Still a nasty organization, name change or not.

I think the trick is in choosing a new name that actually sounds nicer than the old one, and not that of an alien overlord.

Well, they are mercenaries after all...

I half suspect they picked a difficult to pronounce name so nobody would talk about them.

Re: High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Post by MartinCron »

hyperbovine wrote: post #46
poutine wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a good strategy. Interestingly Blackwater changed their name to Xe to try and shake off the bad image. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide Still a nasty organization, name change or not.

I think the trick is in choosing a new name that actually sounds nicer than the old one, and not that of an alien overlord.

They are both really spooky sounding names, though. Blackwater is so alpha-male sounding, and it makes the phrase "Blackwater Contractor" sound (probably) more evil than they actually are.

Re: High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Post by Xurinos »

Xurinos wrote: post #19
tptacek wrote: post #5

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And, like I just said, table sugar breaks down into fructose during digestion, and "HFCS" isn't "HF" compared to "all other sweeteners"; it's "HF" compared to plain corn syrup, which is unpalatable. HFCS alarmism is knee-jerk wishful thinking from people who want to blame some boogeyman industrial process for all the nation's health problems. The problem is our addiction to sweetness. HFCS obviously abets this by mak…

The way I learned it from the nice professor in the video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM ) was simply: fructose = bad, poison glucose = good sucrose = fructose + glucose, unsafe because the composition preserves the fructose portion HFCS = 25% fructose, not as bad as sucrose (IIRC) Mitigate fructose intake with fiber. apple juice = bad, but apple = good because of the fiber countering the effect of the…

For my learning, aside from my 25% figure being misleading, can anyone explain their disagreement with my comment? Is the video a bad source?

Re: High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Post by seiji »

kiuyhjk wrote: post #49
seiji wrote: post #40

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Value Jet renamed themselves AirTran after one of their planes exploded. GTE became Verizon after being horrible for years. Great hacker branding intro: http://blip.tv/file/319044/ "A brand is a const identifier." (back story to the video: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/08/how-to-make-funny-ta... )

Windscale renamed itself Sellafield after a little tiny, nothing to worry about, nothing to see here, reactor explosion. Plan B, after the next incident, is to rename it Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

Here's some humour help. Looks like your third attempt is almost Welsh.

How about: Windscale renamed itself Sellafield after their reactor exploded. I hear they're going to try "Blaidd Drwg" next.

Re: High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Post by sophacles »

tptacek wrote: post #29
Goladus wrote: post #14

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I thought this too, until I read this: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/ A Princeton University research team has demonstrated that all sweeteners are not equal when it comes to weight gain: Rats with access to high-fructose corn syrup gained significantly more weight than those with access to table sugar, even when their overall caloric intake was the same.

This is one very recent very controversial rat study which relies on the group's previous observation that rats whose diets are supplemented with sucrose solution eat less to compensate for the sucrose, but don't eat less to compensate for HFCS. Look, to avoid a rathole argument that neither of us are really qualified to have, let's just stipulate: HFCS is evil. I completely agree. Regardless of any distinctive bioch…

An interesting personal observation to that controversial study: When I drink a regular hfcs-sweetened cola, it really has no noticable affect on my hunger level, on my fullness level, nothing. On the other hand when I drink one of the can sugar varieties, it actually does sate some hunger. Further, the cane sugar varieties make me feel full after drinking one.

I am not unique in this observation... but it is still anecdotal, take it as you will.

Re: High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Post by kiuyhjk »

seiji wrote: post #54
kiuyhjk wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windscale renamed itself Sellafield after a little tiny, nothing to worry about, nothing to see here, reactor explosion. Plan B, after the next incident, is to rename it Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

Here's some humour help. Looks like your third attempt is almost Welsh. How about: Windscale renamed itself Sellafield after their reactor exploded. I hear they're going to try "Blaidd Drwg" next.

Llanfair.... is a famous (for very small values of famous) welsh railway station with the longest name in the world. People go there to take pictures of the sign.

However having a name longer than a tweet is likely to limit your fame in the internet age!

Re: High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Post by Goladus »

tptacek wrote: post #29
Goladus wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought this too, until I read this: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/ A Princeton University research team has demonstrated that all sweeteners are not equal when it comes to weight gain: Rats with access to high-fructose corn syrup gained significantly more weight than those with access to table sugar, even when their overall caloric intake was the same.

This is one very recent very controversial rat study which relies on the group's previous observation that rats whose diets are supplemented with sucrose solution eat less to compensate for the sucrose, but don't eat less to compensate for HFCS. Look, to avoid a rathole argument that neither of us are really qualified to have, let's just stipulate: HFCS is evil. I completely agree. Regardless of any distinctive bioch…

I'm not even prepared to agree that HFCS is evil. Just that there are reasons to differentiate it from sucrose, and sugar is essentially synonymous with sucrose. "Corn sucrose" is clearly not accurate, and "corn sugar" means essentially that.

(Also, prefacing a comment with "look," is superfluous)

Re: High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Post by seiji »

kiuyhjk wrote: post #56
seiji wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's some humour help. Looks like your third attempt is almost Welsh. How about: Windscale renamed itself Sellafield after their reactor exploded. I hear they're going to try "Blaidd Drwg" next.

Llanfair.... is a famous (for very small values of famous) welsh railway station with the longest name in the world. People go there to take pictures of the sign. However having a name longer than a tweet is likely to limit your fame in the internet age!

Mae'n ddrwg gennyf am y camddeall. Yr wyf yn sefyll gywiro.

Re: High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Post by jlmendezbonini »

Tangurena wrote: post #44
araneae wrote: post #42

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You eat tons of things every day that are equivalent to X without realizing it. Would you shy away from foods that have list of ingredients that included fructose and glucose? That's all corn syrup is (and a few random corn solids here and there.) Apples have a really high fructose content too, so technically drinking apple juice can be worse than drinking a dilute corn syrup solution (depending on the kind of HFCS),…

Maybe I'm Jewish and I want to keep kosher. Maybe I'm not. It is my decision what goes into my body. Not yours. Not some company's. There are a lot of foods I don't eat anymore. I happen to love chocolate. But I don't want to eat chocolate with PGPR in it, therefore I don't purchase Hershey's anymore. Is PGPR "bad" for me? Umm, no. When you were a child, you had (and ate) "wax lips" which are PGPR with some color add…

Agree. Also, in the case of chocolate there are other important reasons (chocolate slavery) to refuse buying from industry giants. http://vision.ucsd.edu/~kbranson/stopchocolateslavery/

Re: High fructose corn syrup rebranded as 'corn sugar'

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Post by dangrossman »

m0nastic wrote: post #45
technomancy wrote: post #33

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Not everyone avoids HFCS because of health reasons; some of us avoid it because it tastes like shit.

We avoid it because my girlfriend is allergic to it; which seriously limits what foods we can buy from the store.

I don't understand how that's even possible. Is she also allergic to all fruit and most vegetables?
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