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Tech company career ladders

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Re: Tech company career ladders

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Does anyone else feel really put off on the idea of working at a big tech corporation by articles like this? If I wanted to play the career game, I would have studyied something more business related and got a graduate job at somewhere like KPMG.

Because working as an SWE in bigtech can pay 2-3x as much? Including signing a FB new grad can make up to ~$225k in their first year. There aren’t many industries where this is possible with a bachelors or less.

Not that it detracts from your point, but the best offers I've seen for FB new grad are 115k salary, 270k/4 RSUs, and 100k signing, giving ~280k first year.

Re: Tech company career ladders

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"Home" is a place I can settle, start a family, go back to and live in. I grew up near Geneva. My parents bought a house in France because it was cheaper. My dad crossed the border every day to work at CERN and take me to international school. I can't be Swiss, because my parents weren't resident. I can't be French, because I wasn't born there. The nearest French hospital is 2 hours away through the mountains and CER…

If you come into Canada using the Express Entry immigrantiom system then you land as a PR and so does your wife. No qualification period. Also Canada recognises commonlaw marriage.

I made the switch from H1B's indentured servitude to being a permanent resident of Canada through the Express Entry system. It changed my life for good. US corporates likes H1B so much that they are lobbying to keep the shackles as it is.

Here is how I did it -> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15452647

Re: Tech company career ladders

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Is that true? I would have guessed it was 3 based on the expected level of responsibility of the respective roles. As an engineer I felt like L5 was a position that meant I could trust the coworker to be effective, but I would be wary of joining a team that had no L6s.

L3 at other companies is an L4 at Amazon (I believe only contractors or part-time employees can be < 4). L5 also has a much wider surface area and the gap from L5 to L6 is quite big.

Correct. All corporate roles are L4 or above at Amazon, even outside tech.

Re: Tech company career ladders

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You don't have a country to call home?

"Home" is a place I can settle, start a family, go back to and live in. I grew up near Geneva. My parents bought a house in France because it was cheaper. My dad crossed the border every day to work at CERN and take me to international school. I can't be Swiss, because my parents weren't resident. I can't be French, because I wasn't born there. The nearest French hospital is 2 hours away through the mountains and CER…

> If she and I had children, they would be Taiwanese from her, and would have to go to the military and learn how to kill foreigners. There's a conflict of interest - I don't want children to kill me.

Taiwan isn't the only country you mentioned that has compulsory military service. Your children would "kill you" (wtf?) if they grew up in Switzerland as well.

Re: Tech company career ladders

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Home" is a place I can settle, start a family, go back to and live in. I grew up near Geneva. My parents bought a house in France because it was cheaper. My dad crossed the border every day to work at CERN and take me to international school. I can't be Swiss, because my parents weren't resident. I can't be French, because I wasn't born there. The nearest French hospital is 2 hours away through the mountains and CER…

AFAIK if you're a British citizen you're entitled to live in Ireland, and any children born in Ireland will have Irish citizenship

And that's going to be an increasingly valuable passport in the coming years, I would think.

Re: Tech company career ladders

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(Not the OP) Is that so surprising? My wife and I waited until marriage.

It's not really common amongst europeans under 50.

I'm a European under 50 :) I agree it's not common, but not unheard of.

Re: Tech company career ladders

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That’s not really how this works. Right after a promo you’re not due for another promo. They are dividing a fixed size promo budget pie. So they rank you lower in order to be able to rank someone else higher. There’s no other reason, because it’s impossible to accurately measure engineer’s “performance”, or to even define it in the first place. At Microsoft, for example, in the olden days at least, managers would kee…

> managers would keep around a certain percentage of deadwood on the team to give their best people good ratings and meet their firing quota if the need arises. Tragic consequences of stupid rules, I'm baffled.

Inviolable rule of management: you get the behavior you reward.

Re: Tech company career ladders

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Does anyone else feel really put off on the idea of working at a big tech corporation by articles like this? If I wanted to play the career game, I would have studyied something more business related and got a graduate job at somewhere like KPMG.

Honestly, having worked for startups for three years, joining FB was a breath of fresh air. I know my level, I know what is expected of me. When I say to my manager 'I want to get promoted' he says 'ok looks like you're on course' (or not). My compensation is no longer based on how much my manager likes me, it's based on my work and how I present it. Startups were a mess of failed products, misguided work, and manage…

> My compensation is no longer based on how much my manager likes me, it's based on my work and how I present it.

"and how I present it" sounds suspiciously like 'how much my manager likes me' (or whoever you present it to). Seems more like "same thing, different name" to me than a real difference here.

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