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So Long Last /8 and Thanks For All the Allocations

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Re: So Long Last /8 and Thanks For All the Allocations

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"It's important to keep in mind that while 185/8 is finished, we still have around nine million recovered IPv4 addresses in our available pool. Under current policy and growth rates, we expect these to last a further two years."

They've really cracked down on IP allocation since the days of giving companies entire /8s, or even since 2012

"185/8 was allocated in just five and a half years...in comparison, the preceding /8 - allocated under the old needs-based policy - lasted only five months"

Re: So Long Last /8 and Thanks For All the Allocations

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>we still have around nine million recovered IPv4 addresses in our available pool. Under current policy and growth rates, we expect these to last a further two years.

And by then they will have recovered even more. The end of IPv4 is a lie, and how bad IPv6 is and the lack of good transitioning systems doesn't help.

Re: So Long Last /8 and Thanks For All the Allocations

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Does anyone know the amount of IP space that's allocated but never used or even allocations that have no routes to? I know there is a market to lease IP4 blocks and there is a resale market. I just wondered how much is just being sat on.

What are the main issues with IPv6?

Edit: I did not mean this as a derogatory question. It's legitimate. I simply posted it under the wrong OP. Calm down people.

Re: So Long Last /8 and Thanks For All the Allocations

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post #6

Does anyone know the amount of IP space that's allocated but never used or even allocations that have no routes to? I know there is a market to lease IP4 blocks and there is a resale market. I just wondered how much is just being sat on.

What are the main issues with IPv6? Edit: I did not mean this as a derogatory question. It's legitimate. I simply posted it under the wrong OP. Calm down people.

Sorry, I'm not sure I follow your question.

Re: So Long Last /8 and Thanks For All the Allocations

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Does anyone know the amount of IP space that's allocated but never used or even allocations that have no routes to? I know there is a market to lease IP4 blocks and there is a resale market. I just wondered how much is just being sat on.

This might be an interesting article for you. https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/scan-ping-the-internet-hilbe...

Re: So Long Last /8 and Thanks For All the Allocations

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Even in developed countries IPv6 is barely deployed (my UK ISP - BT - pretends that they rolled it out but half of the time my modem tells me IPv6 is not availabled until I force it to reconnect, and no sign of IPv6 on mobile networks).

Was looking at whether it was more economical to buy a small address block vs rent it from a datacentre. A /24 address block seems to cost around $4,000 upfront but then you need to pay €2,000 signup + €1,400 per yr RIPE membership fee. On the other side IPv4 is not going away and the price is only going to go up given the failure of IPv6 to deploy. Is there any way around the RIPE membership? Like owning an IPv4 address block through a proxy / broker?

[edit: RIPE fee]

Re: So Long Last /8 and Thanks For All the Allocations

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post #4

>we still have around nine million recovered IPv4 addresses in our available pool. Under current policy and growth rates, we expect these to last a further two years. And by then they will have recovered even more. The end of IPv4 is a lie, and how bad IPv6 is and the lack of good transitioning systems doesn't help.

We do have more and more people in the world. Things like NATing can help get around it to some extent, but at the end of the day there aren't enough addresses to give every human alive today even one IP address. That doesn't strike me as a problem that can be solved by buybacks.
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