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Tech company career ladders

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Re: Tech company career ladders

#101

"inhumane quasi-slavery visa situation that we do to our friends who happen to be born somewhere else" - thank you so much for this rant. I've spent the last 3 years in Taiwan sitting tight and waiting until I have enough work experience to qualify for the Skilled Migrant Category visa for New Zealand (Canada and Australia are also options, with similar requirements). Now I have those 3 years, I'm trying to get a job…

What's wrong with Taiwan? Beautiful country, lovely people.

Re: Tech company career ladders

#102

"inhumane quasi-slavery visa situation that we do to our friends who happen to be born somewhere else" - thank you so much for this rant. I've spent the last 3 years in Taiwan sitting tight and waiting until I have enough work experience to qualify for the Skilled Migrant Category visa for New Zealand (Canada and Australia are also options, with similar requirements). Now I have those 3 years, I'm trying to get a job…

Is there a reason you need to be sponsored by a company?

Australia has a skilled independent points-based visa which gives you the permanent right to live and work. I've actually just been granted mine about a week ago.

I take it that New Zealand doesn't have an equivalent?

I've written up a little log of what I had to do, which you might find helpful: https://recklessclicking.com/notes/australian-immigration.ht...

Re: Tech company career ladders

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I think this article unfairly paints small companies as some nirvana which is obviously not the case. I have plenty of friends at small companies who feel like their c-suite is filled with sociopaths and because the company is under the radar nobody cares how the employees of said company are treated.

Even if the people are great, small (5-20 employee) companies often simply don't have scope for much career progression. You might have one layer of management between yourself and the company owner, so unless they start hiring or you plan on taking over the company, you can only be promoted once.

I have the same experience (worked for small companies, startups and FAANG).

At small companies you are working your ass off, and sometimes you'll get something in return - but mostly you'll just get a thankyou from some C-level or founder dude.

At FAANG I was getting a decent salary raise year after year (and a bigger bump through a promotion).

Re: Tech company career ladders

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> From my experience as contractor As a contractor you have essentially already taken a deal where you get paid a premium but have no expectation of career growth. If you have no expectations of career growth at work then big companies are fantastic.

This was not about my career as contractor. It's what I saw how employees were treated. As I said some small companies are great and offer great opportunities but there are plenty that work their people to death, miss payroll, pay low salaries in exchange for a big dream that in most cases will never come true for the regular employee.

> This was not about my career as contractor.

My point is you have self selected into a group that doesn't expect career progression at work in the typical sense.

Surely that influences what you consider a "better" workplace?

> It's what I saw how employees were treated.

A big company can be "nice" and yet incredibly soul crushing.

I've had years of productive work thrown away over politics.

That's far more damaging, personally, than having to work some overtime or being under a bit more day to day stress.

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FAANG == Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google (First time I heard of it; had to look it up)

I feel like Netflix is only in there to make the acronym, does it really belong? It's an odd collection, the others are tech giants yet there's no microsoft and netflix thrown in. Netflix is big but it's not Apple big.

It is a stock thing. All of those companies have well performing stocks.

Re: Tech company career ladders

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FAANG == Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google (First time I heard of it; had to look it up)

I feel like Netflix is only in there to make the acronym, does it really belong? It's an odd collection, the others are tech giants yet there's no microsoft and netflix thrown in. Netflix is big but it's not Apple big.

FAANG is usually used in the context of investments/stocks. These 5 have consistently been some of the highest growth tech stocks in the past couple of years.

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I have a friend who has dealt with this multiple times. She left high school early to go straight into college, so officially she never graduated from high school. That's an automatic rejection from many companies, even for "white collar" positions. It doesn't matter that she's studied at some prestigious places, has a post-graduate degree, etc., because there's an unchangeable, un-bypass-able filter at the start of…

Can't she fix that by getting her GED?

Or simply answer that she has graduated from high school?

I'm not one for dishonesty in general, but if you have a post-graduate degree from an accredited college, ticking the box on an application form that you also have graduated high-school is damn near not a lie, IMO.

Re: Tech company career ladders

#108

Within a job ladder, you then have levels. They tend to map onto years of experience, *whether you have a degree or not*, what kind of degree it is, how well you do in your interviews, how much money you ask for or hint about, and possibly how well you did as an intern. I don't work at a big corp. Has anyone seen career growth stall directly because they lack a (bachelor's) degree (in CS)? This article doesn't direct…

No, but I have seen people's career stall because they worked on the wrong project. As my manager put it at the time "Nobody gets promoted for reducing the size of a tire fire by 50%". You have to be really strategic about what you work on, and for who. It's not about the technical contributions, it's about finding and retaining a sponsor higher in the organization. You help them torpedo competing initiatives and inc…

I think this is depressingly true. As a pure technical person, there is a limit where your technical skills will take you in many companies.

I've been stuck as "the guy who quietly fixes the problems no one else can figure out" for years, while being passed over for promotion because I'm not sufficiently externally visible in that role.

Re: Tech company career ladders

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"inhumane quasi-slavery visa situation that we do to our friends who happen to be born somewhere else" - thank you so much for this rant. I've spent the last 3 years in Taiwan sitting tight and waiting until I have enough work experience to qualify for the Skilled Migrant Category visa for New Zealand (Canada and Australia are also options, with similar requirements). Now I have those 3 years, I'm trying to get a job…

>> and I really hope some company will notice my plight Do you have a website? Is your story documented anywhere? It's really powerful.

It is?

He’s spent the last three years working in tech in a first-world country while waiting for a chance to work in tech in another first-world country, where he’ll have to not-get-deported for two whole years before he can really settle down.

Maybe I’ve grown cold-hearted over the years, but “emigrating to a desirable nation for a desirable job takes several years, during which I’m stuck in another developed, desirable nation” isn’t wringing out any tears on my end.

It took about that long for my family to come over in the 80s, and they were fleeing religious persecution in a shit-hole.

Re: Tech company career ladders

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Sucks for your situation. One question though (I'm sure you've heard before)... > For her to move to the UK requires her to meet income requirements of £18,600 per year What about if you got married?

Marriage doesn't help! "Partnership" is recognised by immigration, and that requires living together, sharing the same address and bank account for a year. This is because of a cultural shift in the meaning of marriage. It used to be one man and one woman, for life. Divorce, polygamy, homosexuality, and marriages of convenience changed that definition. I'm not trying to get distracted about whether those groups of pe…

> As soon as I get married ... might bring babies

Contraception.

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