Does anyone know how much of current US/European cars use Chinese parts? I think if current car manufacturers are already dependent on Chinese parts, then we are not having much of an "invasion" really.
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Hyundai / Kia cracked the USA market and built their own franchise dealer networks not that long ago. So it's clearly possible as long as you're willing to invest enough and eat the losses for a while.
KIA and Hyundai win at the International level in racing and or rallying. That is still the key to selling cars. Ask Mercedes, ask Ferrari, or even Ford. As the saying goes; Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday . I know I'm Old school, and some day in the Future self-driving cars MAY dominate the highways... but (thankfully) that day is not today.
Kia had virtually no race cars in the US till 2011. Well after they were established in the consumer market. Rally races aren't statistically even a thing here (most US consumers know little or nothing about them).
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The Chery J3 costs just as much as the Japanese car if not more. The catch is when you crash you pay with your life. The J3 has very poor body integrity in an accident. It should be pulled from all markets immediately. If you value life you should immediately get rid of this car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naUWH8Scc80
Are you sure you're describing the same car as I am? It's called a J3 in my country, but appears to be labelled differently internationally. It's also a 2016 model. Chery A3, M11, Cielo etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chery_A3 > The Chery J3 costs just as much as the Japanese car if not more. You're really not correct on this. Some of the budget Japanese models come close, they are between 5-7k more in local curre…
Those few thousand dollars saved are not worth the higher risk (and the risk is high)
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
KIA and Hyundai win at the International level in racing and or rallying. That is still the key to selling cars. Ask Mercedes, ask Ferrari, or even Ford. As the saying goes; Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday . I know I'm Old school, and some day in the Future self-driving cars MAY dominate the highways... but (thankfully) that day is not today.
Kia had virtually no race cars in the US till 2011. Well after they were established in the consumer market. Rally races aren't statistically even a thing here (most US consumers know little or nothing about them).
Wait a second. You're talking to a real racer here (I own fire proof underwear) who loves marketing, sales and advertising. You don't have to win in the US market to be considered a real car company... But you Do have to be Competitive somewhere in the Global arena. Want to talk about selling tires? Or selling Fuel? This isn't my opinion--this is a marketing fact.
Mercedes is spending 300 MM this season to win in F1 just to sell cars. What are those Unheard of companies in China doing?
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Consider consuming less USA products? Hmm... No, never, not at all. The truth is no one knows How many people have been killed in China. Another truth is: I can sit here in NY and say Trump is an Idiot who should be Impeached because he is AN ASS and wake up safe and sound in the morning. Try that in China and let me know how that works out for ya.
forget trump, try calling a state trooper an ass next time you are pulled over and see how that works out for ya:) you are allowed to criticize or insult trump because your criticism or insults hace 0 influence on anything. Regular chinese person talking shit about the govt is taken seriously because thats not something anybody does and will attract a lot of attention from other people and can result in a problem for…
Umm-- it appeared to me you were trying to bash America (a perfect country?? Hell NO... NOT EVEN CLOSE; lol) my point, as you helped make, was that here I can trash talk the Prez with impunity, pretty much, Anywhere and everywhere. (But I think you knew what I was getting at). Peace :)
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Not necessarily. A country can be prosperous with no foreign trade. Earth has no foreign trade and extreme poverty there fell by 50% between 2000 and 2012. China is not even an order of magnitude smaller.
My understanding is that Earth imports almost 100% of its energy without generating any for export. Would you care to see what happens when its foreign energy supply is truly cut off?
And we are not trading with the sun.
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Kia had virtually no race cars in the US till 2011. Well after they were established in the consumer market. Rally races aren't statistically even a thing here (most US consumers know little or nothing about them).
Wait a second. You're talking to a real racer here (I own fire proof underwear) who loves marketing, sales and advertising. You don't have to win in the US market to be considered a real car company... But you Do have to be Competitive somewhere in the Global arena. Want to talk about selling tires? Or selling Fuel? This isn't my opinion--this is a marketing fact. Mercedes is spending 300 MM this season to win in F1…
Oh BTW, I am always trying to seduce the younger gals and guys into racing ... here's a Peugeot at Pikes Peak. Enjoy !!
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#78Interestingly, in Chile (and possibly other South American countries, perhaps someone else can weigh in) you can already buy Chinese car brands at dealers. I was told that BYD vehicles are the cheapest option but also have terrible reliability.
Russia and I think all post Soviet countries. Turkey and most of the middle East countries are full of chinese cars. I think developed countries will lose the markets where they used to sell their older off lease cars to. Eastern European countries are literally Germany & France's junk yard. Looks like thats about to change
Not going to change for a bit. There’s still the fallout from Dieselgate. All of those cars are ending up for peanuts in Eastern Europe. My friend from Ukraine was quoting me insanely low prices for premium cars in Ukraine. And that’s with their super high tax rate.
Also, Eastern Europeans like to show off. Car is a major status symbol. Driving a Chinese car is a hair above driving a Soviet car. So anyone who can afford anything better will not buy it.
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#79No, it's not. Chinese cars will not pass US safety regulations for a long time and at a high cost.
Of course they will. The reason they are not safe is not because they don’t know how to make a safe car. It’s because the requirements were not there before. Why build it safer at an expense, if you don’t have to.
Montréal company is already in the process of importing BYD electric cars for taxis.
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/03/05/teo-taxi-aura-un...
Our rules in Canada are just as strict as in US. So if they can do it - anyone can do it.
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Hyundai / Kia cracked the USA market and built their own franchise dealer networks not that long ago. So it's clearly possible as long as you're willing to invest enough and eat the losses for a while.
KIA and Hyundai win at the International level in racing and or rallying. That is still the key to selling cars. Ask Mercedes, ask Ferrari, or even Ford. As the saying goes; Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday . I know I'm Old school, and some day in the Future self-driving cars MAY dominate the highways... but (thankfully) that day is not today.
The "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" cliche no longer works in the US market (which is what we're discussing here). Ask any car dealer. US consumers are barely aware of international racing and rallying series. Even Nascar has lost much of its audience and is no longer very effective as an auto marketing channel.