Planning a Morrowind all-faction speedrun with simulated annealing, part 2

Post by maxpupmax » Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 1:04 AM UTC

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I wouldn't call it broken. It's by design. Proof is that most of the "exploits" were carried over Oblivion and then Skyrim. For example, creating very very overpowered potions is possible in all games. It's your choice if you want to spoil the fun or not.

I wouldn't call it "spoiling the fun", half the fun of Elder Scrolls games is that you can become transcendent. In Arena, you start humbly, but rise high enough that you destroy Jagar Tharn, one of the most powerful mages in the whole of the history of the Elder Scrolls games. In Daggerfall, you're the right-hand man of the Emperor, and seek out a world-ending superweapon, and may just take it for yourself. In Morrow…

Post by SubiculumCode » Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 2:26 AM UTC

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Morrowind is sufficiently broken, in the best possible and most fun way, that any character can become a god. Abusing alchemy, 1pt levitate spears, doors, the teleportation shrine in Vivec, or infinite potions can be done by any class. It's incredibly impressive that a game can have hundreds of hours of content, yet be speedran in 7 minutes.

I remember crafting something that allowed me to jump a long way on I think a Daedric mask in the game. I could literally jump across half the map when it was activated. From memory it might have been similar to that spell you find at the early part of the game on the way to Balmora. Morrowind was IMHO the perfect game. The fact that if you were lucky and skillful you could get the best weapons and spells early in th…

Post by hsljekskfh » Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 2:43 AM UTC

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This is Morrowind, not Skyrim. Stealth archers are not a thing here. In fact I'd say magic-based characters are much, much better than combat or stealth-based ones.

don't morrowind archers get the 3x and 5x damage bonuses too on sneak attack? I played heavily modded a lot of time ago so I might be mistaken

Post by foota » Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 3:36 AM UTC

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I think a lot of speed run games are much more linear than this.

correct, but also this person gave themself a hard goal of beating 9 storylines, not one. this is essentially a traveling salesman problem where the salesman has to talk to 9 sets of ordered lists of 3-10 people, and can work on them simultaneously, along with a couple other things. the author quickly realized that brute force wouldn’t work and chose a genetic algorithm instead. the normal unpatched speed run of morr…

Post by rav » Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 5:55 AM UTC