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The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Post by tschwimmer »

doesnt_know wrote: post #19

I didn't know this was controversial in any way, they've been in the Oceania market for some time. My wife and I own a Chery J3, purchased it new. It came with a 3 year mechanical warranty plus other benefits for like half the price of a Japanese car. I mean, it's pretty obviously catering for the "budget" market, it is literally the cheapest new car you can buy in the country. But it has suited our needs and we're a…

Can you talk a bit more about your experience with the car? How much did it cost, how reliable has it been, what are your most and least favorite things about it?

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Post by 2RTZZSro »

doesnt_know wrote: post #19

I didn't know this was controversial in any way, they've been in the Oceania market for some time. My wife and I own a Chery J3, purchased it new. It came with a 3 year mechanical warranty plus other benefits for like half the price of a Japanese car. I mean, it's pretty obviously catering for the "budget" market, it is literally the cheapest new car you can buy in the country. But it has suited our needs and we're a…

The Chery J3 costs just as much as the Japanese car if not more. The catch is when you crash you pay with your life. The J3 has very poor body integrity in an accident. It should be pulled from all markets immediately. If you value life you should immediately get rid of this car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naUWH8Scc80

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Post by 2RTZZSro »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #24
doesnt_know wrote: post #19

I didn't know this was controversial in any way, they've been in the Oceania market for some time. My wife and I own a Chery J3, purchased it new. It came with a 3 year mechanical warranty plus other benefits for like half the price of a Japanese car. I mean, it's pretty obviously catering for the "budget" market, it is literally the cheapest new car you can buy in the country. But it has suited our needs and we're a…

I think Chinese cars have been in markets like Australia for awhile now, as well awards developing markets. I don’t think they’ve been present anywhere else however. There was a scandal in Australia a few years ago with I think BYD or Chery lowering their standards after crash test approval.

The crash tests are already abysmal I cannot imagine how dangerous this car is if they actually lowered their safety standards after the test.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Post by threeseed »

grecy wrote: post #28

When it came to Australia it essentially forced the closure of the Ford and Holden (GM) vehicle design and factories. You can buy a brand new Chinese car with a 3 year warranty for less than the depreciation on a new Ford/GM/Toyota would be in 2 years. So after 3 years you can literally drive the Chinese vehicle to the dump and buy another one, and you're still up financially. Reviews so far say they're cheap, you ge…

This isn't what happened at all.

The decline of Australian car makers was entirely a result of consumers favouring (a) European car makers e.g. Mercedes and (b) smaller, more fuel efficient cars.

People just don't want large, 4 door sedan cars with V8 5L engines, a comparatively lower class brand and a less than luxurious interior.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Post by yborg »

beebmam wrote: post #6

If global markets aren't transforming China out of totalitarianism, then morally, shouldn't we stop assisting the economic development of China? I'm horrified by some of the stories I've been told by my Chinese co-workers. Threats of violence to family members (for speaking freely) by the Chinese government is extremely common.

It's far too late for that. The real question is whether "global markets" will transform the US into a totalitarian state to better compete with China.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Post by stretchwithme »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #20
beebmam wrote: post #6

If global markets aren't transforming China out of totalitarianism, then morally, shouldn't we stop assisting the economic development of China? I'm horrified by some of the stories I've been told by my Chinese co-workers. Threats of violence to family members (for speaking freely) by the Chinese government is extremely common.

Perhaps it's because the end result would be both poverty and totalitarianism.

Not necessarily. A country can be prosperous with no foreign trade.

Earth has no foreign trade and extreme poverty there fell by 50% between 2000 and 2012. China is not even an order of magnitude smaller.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

stretchwithme wrote: post #36
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps it's because the end result would be both poverty and totalitarianism.

Not necessarily. A country can be prosperous with no foreign trade. Earth has no foreign trade and extreme poverty there fell by 50% between 2000 and 2012. China is not even an order of magnitude smaller.

Either way you might still have totalitarianism.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Post by threeseed »

gojomo wrote: post #5

Will it be dockless rent-by-the-minute electric hatchbacks on every block? Please let it be dockless rent-by-the-minute electric hatchbacks on every block.

This already exists today in many countries e.g. Australia.

Most of the cars aren't electric but some are.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Post by gkanai »

grecy wrote: post #28

When it came to Australia it essentially forced the closure of the Ford and Holden (GM) vehicle design and factories. You can buy a brand new Chinese car with a 3 year warranty for less than the depreciation on a new Ford/GM/Toyota would be in 2 years. So after 3 years you can literally drive the Chinese vehicle to the dump and buy another one, and you're still up financially. Reviews so far say they're cheap, you ge…

> they're cheap, you get what you pay for, but they work and are reliable enough.

Chinese vehicles are not as safe in accidents as those cars which have had a longer time to engineer safety technologies. Also the price point of most Chinese cars do now allow for addition of safety technologies at the level of most other non-Chinese vehicles.

Same thing with the upcoming COMAC Chinese-made airplanes. You do not want to fly those planes when they finally hit the market.

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