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The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

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Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

#21
It may be coming but it's unlikely to be coming to North America, Europe and India any time soon. After having been forced to turn over their technology to China to enter its market these countries are not willingly going to turn around and buy that technology back in their own markets.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

#23
Good. Maybe some real competition can shake up the established car manufacturers. Right now they have to be forced by the government to modernize their lineup wrt emissions. I can't wait for cheap Chinese EVs in inner cities.

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#24

I didn't know this was controversial in any way, they've been in the Oceania market for some time. My wife and I own a Chery J3, purchased it new. It came with a 3 year mechanical warranty plus other benefits for like half the price of a Japanese car. I mean, it's pretty obviously catering for the "budget" market, it is literally the cheapest new car you can buy in the country. But it has suited our needs and we're a…

I think Chinese cars have been in markets like Australia for awhile now, as well awards developing markets. I don’t think they’ve been present anywhere else however. There was a scandal in Australia a few years ago with I think BYD or Chery lowering their standards after crash test approval.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

#25
post #3

Whenever you read an article like this ask yourself why it hasn’t happened yet. Geely, Great Wall and numerous other Chinese domestic brands have been operating for decades. Why haven’t they cracked the USA market? The dealer network system in the United States.

> The dealer network system in the United States. So I get that franchising laws require dealers to be independent from manufacturers and they're up there with occupational licensing, but how exactly does that prevent a new manufacturer from entering the market? I assume if you can raise a few billion to build a plant, kickstarting a bunch of new "independent" dealerships is just another line item you plan for...

Tesla just bypassed the dealer system altogether.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

#26

It may be coming but it's unlikely to be coming to North America, Europe and India any time soon. After having been forced to turn over their technology to China to enter its market these countries are not willingly going to turn around and buy that technology back in their own markets.

Im sure the core-ruptured politician caste wouldnt even consider such a sell-out.

Im reall trying to keep a straigth face here.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

#27
post #6

If global markets aren't transforming China out of totalitarianism, then morally, shouldn't we stop assisting the economic development of China? I'm horrified by some of the stories I've been told by my Chinese co-workers. Threats of violence to family members (for speaking freely) by the Chinese government is extremely common.

> If global markets aren't transforming China out of totalitarianism, then morally, shouldn't we stop assisting the economic development of China?

I personally don't see any other way. Either it's this or exploitation. You shouldn't ignore the effects of your trading with China (and all countries). Doing so just legitimizes their actions and is entirely immoral.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

#28
When it came to Australia it essentially forced the closure of the Ford and Holden (GM) vehicle design and factories.

You can buy a brand new Chinese car with a 3 year warranty for less than the depreciation on a new Ford/GM/Toyota would be in 2 years.

So after 3 years you can literally drive the Chinese vehicle to the dump and buy another one, and you're still up financially.

Reviews so far say they're cheap, you get what you pay for, but they work and are reliable enough.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

#29
If China was serious they'd market solely electric cars to get a toehold in the American market.

I can hear a dealer now telling a prospect, you can wait another two years for a Model 3 or buy ours and drive it home tonight. There's a pent up demand for battery powered cars under $40K.

A Chinese SUV? It would have to be rather compelling to take a chance.

Re: The Chinese Car Invasion Is Coming

#30
I'll stick with Japanese cars. I've been driving Toyotas for 35 years. And they're an ally.

My hope is that China will moderate and become less authoritarian and less of a threat to its neighbors. Most countries have over time.

And I hope the US will be less involved in foreign military adventures. There's no doubt in my mind that much of what dictators do is driven by what we do.

I also believe that trade helps prevent war. We tend to not go to war with countries with whom we have many profitable relationships.

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