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Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by gkya »

dmix wrote: post #116

> No suspicious javascript. My only problem with this is the very positive trend towards design-heavy journalism... just like the NYTimes Wind Turbine article currently on the homepage: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/23/business/ener... I love the Instapaper/RSS style consumption as much as anyone but that doesn't mean that multi-MB pages with plenty of JS/CSS/Images are always a bad thing. Maybe the sol…

That'll probably die out as people understand that nobody gives a flying fuck to all that silly evil sorcery, except the guys who made them. The way analytics works today, most web publishers are basically living in a bubble that distorts the image of the outer world.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by maxxxxx »

askvictor wrote: post #134
originalsimba wrote: post #27

Did anyone else notice how corporations like Twitter and Facebook quietly tried to kill RSS in the past 10 years? RSS is a wonderful technology with embodies the spirit of the Internet. Facebook and Twitter are, by comparison, cancer. I often recommend WordPress to folks as an alternative for blogging, because it is free and has RSS functional out of the box.

Don't forget Google. In fact, it's not just RSS; it's other open standards (e.g. XMPP) that they embraced initially, then dropped.

Embrace, extend, and extinguish is alive and well. This time it's not MS though.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by gkya »

icebraining wrote: post #69
frouge wrote: post #65

How about implementing RSS in the browser? My ideal implementation would be to click on my special RSS bookmark folder and immediatly see how many new items there are for each site of the folder, something like "kottke.org (5)" <- special mention to a lovely blog

Firefox has had that since version 1.0 (2004): https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/live-bookmarks

Live Bookmarks has a very weird UI. I have upwards of 90 feeds currently, and it's simply impractical for me to check each one of them manually to see if there is soemthing new.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by calibas »

disconnected wrote: post #31

"People" keep rattling on about how RSS needs to be revived. Do these people live in some sort of alternative reality where: - The guardian - BBC - Reuters - Ars Technica - LWN - Hacker News and a fuck ton others don't have an RSS feed? Or some sort or reality where Flym (or the myriads of RSS apps) don't exist? Because I sure as hell don't.

In my experience, the average internet user has barely any idea of what RSS is or how to use an RSS app. It's certainly not dead, but it has stagnated in recent years, while things like the Notifications API get integrated into all major browsers.

I've created my own RSS aggregator, and a large percentage of smaller sites have misconfigured or broken RSS feeds. Most site owners don't seem to care much about RSS anymore.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by tomcatfish »

unicornporn wrote: post #5
parvenu74 wrote: post #2

Can part of the renaissance be switching to a JSON format? Please?

Sorry, no. RSS and Atom already does the job. https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

Why didn't you link to the comic to allow Munroe to gain views/advertisement revenue/etc.?

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by polm23 »

ravenstine wrote: post #20

Is there anything that can turn your email into a secure personal RSS feed? A feed reader that also includes emails would replace quite a bit of what centralized social media provides.

The opposite approach is to send RSS feeds to your email client, which can be done by rss2email (originally by Aaron Schwartz).

https://github.com/wking/rss2email

I've been using it for a few years and, while the command line interface is a bit awkward, it works fine. Since email clients have the same controls an RSS reader needs (read/unread, folders, etc.) it works fine.

Blogtrottr is a hosted service that does the same thing; I also used them for a few years and was happy with the service. Just moved off because self-hosting was in some ways simpler for me.

https://blogtrottr.com/

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by bmelton »

adventured wrote: post #76
tnorthcutt wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Movable Type preceded WordPress by a couple of years or so, FWIW.

LiveJournal predated Movable Type by two years.

Finger's got them all beat by a few decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_protocol

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by diminoten »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #92
douglaswlance wrote: post #21

I'm surprised how often RSS is mentioned on Hackernews, and how infrequently some recommends Feedly. It has wonderful features, like saving articles, collection boards, team features, and popularity-based sorting options. (Full disclosure, I don't work for Feedly nor do I own any of the company. I just like the service!) http://feedly.com

When Google Reader died, I tried several alternatives including Feedly. At that time it could import your feeds, but it didn't do export. I don't now, but I didn't want to use a service that locked-in RSS feeds.

I didn't even use a service like Google Reader, but when it died, I got caught up in the flood of alternatives, and am now a very happy Feedly user.

Didn't even know what I was missing!

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