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Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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newsboat <3

Having just got back into RSS in the last week, I tried newsboat and found it does at least what I needed it to, from the terminal, without it adding features that get in the way. I haven't looked for anything else.

it helps control my compulsory feed checking being in term. was a google reader fan from the beginning, and have tried and paid for most of the replacements. newsboat is fast, light and super easy on my data plan (1.5hrs/day on bus). my triage and read below...

browser "links" macro l set browser "open -a Safari %u"; open-in-browser ; set browser "links" define-filter "Starred" "flags = \"s\"" macro m "edit-flags" s; ENTER macro k "edit-flags" ''; ENTER

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Static websites with blogs/regular entries predated even livejournal

This. Blogging predates all blogging services, platforms, and software. Blogging was invented by early web pioneers. The corporations followed in the Gold Rush of the 1990s dot-com bubble, and they've been trying to monetize our social lives ever since. Nowadays, thanks to marketing machines and television talking heads, nobody has "websites" anymore, we have "blogs".

I think I first blogged in the early 2000's with Blog Spot (which became Blogger). It was great.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Would anyone be interested in an RSS social network that allows you to 1. Pull in RSS news streams 2. Automatically generate your own RSS streams from your posts (and re-shares) 3. Provides content curation over the RSS streams amongst your friends that are subscribed on the same streams 4. Presents previews with images and scraped data in a 3/4-column summary layout that is easy to skim

There are already protocols out there that do that. Ostatus and Activitypub being two. Some examples of social networks already using them are GNU Social and Mastodon.

I dont think any of the above social sites allow you to directly consume i.e. the hackers news rss stream on your timeline

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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> RSS has no analytics. Great! Another selling point.

I agree, but realistically speaking that is why it’s being fought by content providers whether we the techies like it or not

Let it be fought by them all the time. Useful websites will have an RSS feed. It's a nice filter, IMO.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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I'm surprised how often RSS is mentioned on Hackernews, and how infrequently some recommends Feedly. It has wonderful features, like saving articles, collection boards, team features, and popularity-based sorting options. (Full disclosure, I don't work for Feedly nor do I own any of the company. I just like the service!) http://feedly.com

When Google Reader died, I tried several alternatives including Feedly. At that time it could import your feeds, but it didn't do export. I don't now, but I didn't want to use a service that locked-in RSS feeds.

Same. I used google reader heavily when it was around. Now I don't bother using any 3rd party service and I just host my own RSS server (tt-rss). Not going to start using a service and get used to it, only for it to shut down.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Most podcasts that I've encountered lately don't have RSS feeds listed. You have to view source to find the URLs. The Internet needs to revive that open technology culture. Instead of Facebook/Twitter/G+/etc. subscribe to RSS feeds. Instead of Medium, use WordPress/Hugo/Metalsmith/etc. on Netlify/Surge/Github etc. Instead of Mac, use GNU/Linux. Etc.

> You have to view source to find the URLs. In Firefox, do Right Click->View Page Info. The "Feeds" tabs lists the links. There are also extensions (e.g. "Awesome RSS") that will put a symbol in your URL bar.

Thanks, I didn't know that. Mozilla should make that more prominent so that users who don't know what RSS/ATOM is could "subscribe to this website" with just a click.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Most of the complaints I've seen with the 'wrongness' of xml are centered around its human unreadability, which doesn't matter in this context. I'm curious if there's another reason.

While I shouldn't speak for JSON Feed's developers (Manton Reece of Micro.blog and Brent Simmons, original developer of RSS/Atom reader NetNewsWire), their argument basically boils down to "developers seem to be better at constructing valid JSON than they are at constructing valid XML." I know a lot of HN folks will say but you can just construct perfectly valid XML with library such-and-such or API this-and-that and…

It's funny, the only RSS feed I use I turn into json so I can store it tinydb in "native" format. Well, technically, I turn it into a python dict and then tinydb does the conversion to json automagically. Took 50 lines of code which I banged together from google searches.

Back before I started using the db backend I was parsing the feed with an auto-generated (from the schema) "rss reader" in python then merging the items into a master rss feed sorted by channels. That worked for a while until I got motivated and made it searchable/modifiable but couldn't find a simple database that I could just dump xml into.

Anyhoo, my point is it's easy to work with rss in either native xml or json with some simple tools that do most of the work for you. Would be super easy to bang together a converter that goes both ways if someone was motivated enough.

Actually... now that I think about it, changing generateDS to use a dict to store xml attributes could easily go back and forth with all the error checking one would desire -- might have to hack that together.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Did anyone else notice how corporations like Twitter and Facebook quietly tried to kill RSS in the past 10 years? RSS is a wonderful technology with embodies the spirit of the Internet. Facebook and Twitter are, by comparison, cancer. I often recommend WordPress to folks as an alternative for blogging, because it is free and has RSS functional out of the box.

Not just them. After last week's discussion, I noticed this week that, while Rick Steves does podcasts, I had to hunt for the RSS feeds page hosted on his own website. WTF? My usual policy for podcasts is, RSS subscription or else. Ain't got time to visit the damn website. Science Friday tried that for a while and soon went back.

Or there was a big trend where they only links were to an itunes page which a) requires itunes to be installed because b) there is no direct link for the rss feed.

I had to write a scraper to find the underlying rss feed for itunes only podcasts.

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