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Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by bhhaskin »

aetherspawn wrote: post #89

Would anyone be interested in an RSS social network that allows you to 1. Pull in RSS news streams 2. Automatically generate your own RSS streams from your posts (and re-shares) 3. Provides content curation over the RSS streams amongst your friends that are subscribed on the same streams 4. Presents previews with images and scraped data in a 3/4-column summary layout that is easy to skim

There are already protocols out there that do that. Ostatus and Activitypub being two. Some examples of social networks already using them are GNU Social and Mastodon.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by ASalazarMX »

douglaswlance wrote: post #21

I'm surprised how often RSS is mentioned on Hackernews, and how infrequently some recommends Feedly. It has wonderful features, like saving articles, collection boards, team features, and popularity-based sorting options. (Full disclosure, I don't work for Feedly nor do I own any of the company. I just like the service!) http://feedly.com

When Google Reader died, I tried several alternatives including Feedly. At that time it could import your feeds, but it didn't do export. I don't now, but I didn't want to use a service that locked-in RSS feeds.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by nambit »

padthai wrote: post #83
disconnected wrote: post #31

"People" keep rattling on about how RSS needs to be revived. Do these people live in some sort of alternative reality where: - The guardian - BBC - Reuters - Ars Technica - LWN - Hacker News and a fuck ton others don't have an RSS feed? Or some sort or reality where Flym (or the myriads of RSS apps) don't exist? Because I sure as hell don't.

Here is the RSS feed of Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/rss Edit: Every single of those webpages have an RSS feed. Ars Technica: http://feeds.arstechnica.com/arstechnica/index/ The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/rss LWN: https://lwn.net/headlines/newrss BBC: http://feeds.bbci.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/news_front_page... Reuters: http://feeds.reuters.com/Reuters/worldNews

Maybe you misunderstood what he was saying. He was saying every one of those pages already has an RSS feed so there's nothing to "revive"

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by dfee »

jklinger410 wrote: post #42
dfee wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My use of RSS has fallen (very recently) so I only consume a few feeds every day. However, I both enjoy and dislike Feedly. Here’s the rundown: Pros) - advanced features like highlighting, team management - pure free offering that just works - integration with pretty much every feed reader app out there Cons: - no ability/willingness to pull full text - iOS app is honestly kind of clunky I emailed them that I’d willi…

In regards to your full text request. The publisher has the option what to syndicate, truncated or full. What you are asking them to do is have a crawler go to the site and pull the full text whenever they feel they are being served truncated. Not only does that go against the nature of RSS, but would be costly for them. What app do you pay for that does this? Is it even using RSS?

Quite a few apps provide this. One is called Newsify.

I don’t know that it goes against the nature of RSS. I kind of feel that providing only a title of the article and a link goes against the spirit. But nature and spirit are different.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by dfee »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #40
dfee wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My use of RSS has fallen (very recently) so I only consume a few feeds every day. However, I both enjoy and dislike Feedly. Here’s the rundown: Pros) - advanced features like highlighting, team management - pure free offering that just works - integration with pretty much every feed reader app out there Cons: - no ability/willingness to pull full text - iOS app is honestly kind of clunky I emailed them that I’d willi…

Given that one of the blogs I follow charges for access to a full-text RSS feed, my guess is that some sites might be upset with them if they did that.

Ah yes, one of the resources I follow is a newspaper where I pay for the news weekly (FT). I only get the title and a link.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by padthai »

nambit wrote: post #93
padthai wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is the RSS feed of Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/rss Edit: Every single of those webpages have an RSS feed. Ars Technica: http://feeds.arstechnica.com/arstechnica/index/ The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/rss LWN: https://lwn.net/headlines/newrss BBC: http://feeds.bbci.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/news_front_page... Reuters: http://feeds.reuters.com/Reuters/worldNews

Maybe you misunderstood what he was saying. He was saying every one of those pages already has an RSS feed so there's nothing to "revive"

I completely misunderstood what he said.

I agree with him, I consume most of my news using RSS and even in pages that do not have RSS (like soundcloud) there is a RSS server somewhere serving the feed.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by mud_dauber »

douglaswlance wrote: post #21

I'm surprised how often RSS is mentioned on Hackernews, and how infrequently some recommends Feedly. It has wonderful features, like saving articles, collection boards, team features, and popularity-based sorting options. (Full disclosure, I don't work for Feedly nor do I own any of the company. I just like the service!) http://feedly.com

Major, major thumbs up for Feedly. The first site I check every morning. >250 sites tied to it.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by arsa »

douglaswlance wrote: post #21

I'm surprised how often RSS is mentioned on Hackernews, and how infrequently some recommends Feedly. It has wonderful features, like saving articles, collection boards, team features, and popularity-based sorting options. (Full disclosure, I don't work for Feedly nor do I own any of the company. I just like the service!) http://feedly.com

I use it daily for years and was shocked to find that it supports pinch zoom on iOS - but not android (where i use it).

Feels like it that's just tip of the iceberg re. things they could improve - for example they finally, finally!, added ability to create categories/tags for free (was paid feature).

I understand it's tough to run a business like this (and why google killed this, at least officially) - but i wouldn't actually mind an occasional ad.

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by wrinkl3 »

jobigoud wrote: post #66
ravenstine wrote: post #20

Is there anything that can turn your email into a secure personal RSS feed? A feed reader that also includes emails would replace quite a bit of what centralized social media provides.

This reminds me of the author of SuperMemo[1], which is a software for remembering things using carefully spaced repetition. (Started in 1982 and still maintained). They pioneered "incremental reading" a technique where an article is split into pieces and ingested by the software and fed back to you in an asynchronous manner at the most appropriate time. Then the main author apparently started to feed everything, inc…

Doesn't Duolingo operate on roughly the same principles?

Re: Now Is the Perfect Time for an RSS Renaissance

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Post by eecks »

douglaswlance wrote: post #21

I'm surprised how often RSS is mentioned on Hackernews, and how infrequently some recommends Feedly. It has wonderful features, like saving articles, collection boards, team features, and popularity-based sorting options. (Full disclosure, I don't work for Feedly nor do I own any of the company. I just like the service!) http://feedly.com

I just signed up. I added one RSS feed (Reddit programming sub) and then tried to add another Google keyword.. it popped up trying to charge me..
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