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MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’

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Re: MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’

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> Ideas were not coming from me, they were just passing through my head This might sound like I'm crazy but this brings back memories of a strange experience from some years ago that I can't really explain other than "coincidence".. but in the light of this article I started to think.. is it? Me and my gf were really tired and both exactly in this "almost sleeping but not quite" state. We were lying down with our hea…

Consider an alternative hypothesis? In your hypnagogic state, your brain actually produced an image based on what she described to you, then reordered the chronology of events so that it seemed to you like you imagined the image before she described it. Not too dissimilar from deja vu. It's well known that brains can sometimes reorder the chronology of events, especially if they occur within a short time window.

Thanks, I haven't thought of this but it sounds plausible as well.

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> Ideas were not coming from me, they were just passing through my head This might sound like I'm crazy but this brings back memories of a strange experience from some years ago that I can't really explain other than "coincidence".. but in the light of this article I started to think.. is it? Me and my gf were really tired and both exactly in this "almost sleeping but not quite" state. We were lying down with our hea…

I had a cognitive science professor relate a story about a similar liminal dream. He had a long dream about a visit to the library. Every element of the dream built to someone yelling "look up!" and when he did, he saw a large book falling right towards him, so he was about to knock it out of the way. He woke to find a book falling from a high shelf right above his head - and his hand already extended to knock it away.

Did he have a prophetic dream? Probably not. Probably he saw the book through barely-open eyes and his brain generated and stored the entire dream instantaneously and he only thought he had experienced it in normal time.

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I was introduced to this phenomenon through Kurzweil's book "How to create a mind". He claims that the brain is massively parallelized pattern recognition machine, with consciousness being a censor that filters results. While in hypnagogia, this censoring function is suppressed and you are able to make "unthinkable" connections between ideas you normally think are unrelated. Of course, you should just take notes of t…

Until now I never knew that there was a name for "hypnagogia". For most of my life, I was never able to remember this period of sleep, but over the last few years that has changed (not intentionally, so I don't know what changed in my body to cause the difference). I've developed some level of awareness during it and can wake myself up from it, then remember at least some of it. If you've never experienced it, it's l…

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Re: MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’

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post #25

All i can think of... This is not a dream... not a dream. We are using your brain's electrical system as a receiver. We are unable to transmit through conscious neural interference. You are receiving this broadcast as a dream. We are transmitting from the year one, nine, nine, nine. You are receiving this broadcast in order to alter the events you are seeing. Our technology has not developed a transmitter strong enou…

This? https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0093777/?ref_=m_tttr_qt Prince of Darkness (1987)

Oh my. I spent years trying to track down the source of that sample and eventually gave up and forgot about it. A John Carpenter movie I wasn't aware of? Thanks!!

Re: MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’

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post #98

> Ideas were not coming from me, they were just passing through my head This might sound like I'm crazy but this brings back memories of a strange experience from some years ago that I can't really explain other than "coincidence".. but in the light of this article I started to think.. is it? Me and my gf were really tired and both exactly in this "almost sleeping but not quite" state. We were lying down with our hea…

Consider an alternative hypothesis? In your hypnagogic state, your brain actually produced an image based on what she described to you, then reordered the chronology of events so that it seemed to you like you imagined the image before she described it. Not too dissimilar from deja vu. It's well known that brains can sometimes reorder the chronology of events, especially if they occur within a short time window.

Also see Déjà Rêvé.

Re: MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That moment when your brain falls asleep in class and tells you it unveiled the deep connection between carnival blister peanut texture and the quantum variational bound. And then you wake up suddenly and get scared because you think you might have yelled out something stupid. Or maybe I’m just the only one.

> Or maybe I’m just the only one not just you - I didn't have a name for it, but my brain pretty much does free-association in that phase. On more than one occasion I've jolted awake because I've had a earth-shattering revelation, only to realise my idea was already invented (hot air balloon) or pretty ridiculous (like having your toaster burn the day's agenda on your toast). I can't help but wonder: how many multi-m…

> having your toaster burn the day's agenda on your toast

Shut up and take my money!

Re: MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’

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post #25

All i can think of... This is not a dream... not a dream. We are using your brain's electrical system as a receiver. We are unable to transmit through conscious neural interference. You are receiving this broadcast as a dream. We are transmitting from the year one, nine, nine, nine. You are receiving this broadcast in order to alter the events you are seeing. Our technology has not developed a transmitter strong enou…

This? https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0093777/?ref_=m_tttr_qt Prince of Darkness (1987)

Specifically these. Scared the crap out of me as a 13 year old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGsv0pJemTY

Re: MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’

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Fascinating. I have a keen interest in Shamanism and more patience for "woo-woo" here than most. Navigating your dream state is a mighty Shamanic concept. It is one of two Shamanic practices that people here will entertain. The other is the idea of the memory castle. New technological approaches like this will help us peel back the veil of the tangible, 'ordinary' realities of which we are comfortable. The world will…

I would love some reading recommendations on these topics if you would be willing to recommend anything.

"The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep" by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche is excellent. The terminology can feel alien or intimidating, but if you're receptive you can see results quickly. Bonus: The author & his organization give many workshops, in the US and abroad, even online.
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