People don't underestimate it, they just don't know what to do about it. That's arguably more of a technological problem than a policy problem, the technical and philosophical problem of how to detect fakes.
Underestimating the mind-warping potential of fake video
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#12Do we need digital signing on every image/video in the news?
Perhaps the model for “trusted news” would follow other established certificate signing models
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#14But not fake narratives, fake writing or fake news. Convenient that new media celebrities and individuals have greatest audience creation power through video, whereas traditional media still holds sway in print / news. So clearly, understand the origins of the narrative that "fake video" is more dangerous: creator videos are stealing mindshare from traditional media. So of course trad media wants to believe it's dang…
> Or maybe people should just trust themselves, and their own experience. And get more of that, instead of more exposure to media.
This is fine for certain contexts, but what about cases that can be important for individual people but outside their personal experience?
Did Trump sign an Obamacare repeal (an example from the article)? That kind of thing matters for being an informed voter, but few people were physically present through the various bills that went before Congress.
For much of day-to-day life, I agree with you. I just also think that reputation matters.
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#15Except all video is fake, that is, all videos are artifacts, artificial things.
"We’re not so far from the collapse of reality" -- am I the only one who finds this inane? No video is real.
Critical thinking as applied to the written word applies equally to the image. It's not rocket science.
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#16Except all video is fake, that is, all videos are artifacts, artificial things. "We’re not so far from the collapse of reality" -- am I the only one who finds this inane? No video is real. Critical thinking as applied to the written word applies equally to the image. It's not rocket science.
Except everyone has been conditioned over the latest ~100 years to assume that everything they see in a video is real. That is: unless explicitly contextualised as fake, like when watching a movie.
Your premise that everyone should just "apply some critical thinking" directly contradicts the events of the last couple of years, not just in the field of video but within any form of media.
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#17Do we need digital signing on every image/video in the news?
Signing by who?
For news we can assume that it's signed by the journalists and news agencies who created the content. Or who researched the origin and are willing to put their credibility on the line.
Edit: To clarify, this doesn't prove if something is real or fake. It just makes attribution of the origin easier and creates a traceable chain of trust.
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#18But not fake narratives, fake writing or fake news. Convenient that new media celebrities and individuals have greatest audience creation power through video, whereas traditional media still holds sway in print / news. So clearly, understand the origins of the narrative that "fake video" is more dangerous: creator videos are stealing mindshare from traditional media. So of course trad media wants to believe it's dang…
> Or maybe people should just trust themselves, and their own experience. And get more of that, instead of more exposure to media. This is fine for certain contexts, but what about cases that can be important for individual people but outside their personal experience? Did Trump sign an Obamacare repeal (an example from the article)? That kind of thing matters for being an informed voter, but few people were physical…
"Informed voter"
Ha! An oxymoron that Socrates would have chided you for. :)
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#20So are they advocating for tougher libel laws? The photo and video used as examples are pretty obviously fake, but even if it was indistinguishable, what then?
Fake photoshopped images are so common now that ppl should assume any highly controversial/compromising photo that isn't corroborated by AP or Reuters is probably fake. Doesn't stop people from believing in fake photos or fake stories, but that's how it's always been and fake videos are the next logical step.
Only solution I can see is to make it easier to prosecute entities that have demonstrated intent to defraud the public with fake news/images/video. The press would absolutely hate that, and rightfully so.