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What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by r3bl »

lamename wrote: post #24
matlock wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"What is more probable is tha FB will try a legal trick claiming they are an American company and they follow the laws of California, not EU, even if they gladly accept European advertisers's money via Ireland" That is specifically not possible under GDPR. It doesn't matter where your company sits, if you store data from europeans (or people living in europe) you have to follow the GDPR with potential for severe puni…

> ... if you store data from europeans (or people living in europe) you have to follow the GDPR ... Does that mean the company has to follow it even for non-European users?

I live in the EU. If I'm your "customer" (as in, you store my personally identifiable data), you have to comply with GDPR, regardless of where your company is.

Hope that simplifies things.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by r3bl »

01001010 wrote: post #10
cromulen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't have a choice under GDPR.

To what extent will GDPR require them to include the information they have to serve and target you ads? Does anyone even know yet?

Not only will it require them to include the info they're using to target you with ads, but also their source for that info (if it wasn't submitted by the user itself), the existence of automated-decision making, and "meaningful information about the logic involved".

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-15-gdpr/

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by 908087 »

fortythirteen wrote: post #29

> Wikileaks, Julian Assange, and alt-right provocateurs recommend giving it a whirl. Classic guilt-by-association propaganda technique.

I really can't even figure out what posessed the writer to put that line in there. It has absolutely nothing to do with the story, and kind of comes out of nowhere.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by dwyerm »

fredley wrote: post #19
mtremsal wrote: post #18

Thought experiment: if after 5/25, I download my data, then revoke consent and delete my account, then a while later reactivate my account and log back in -- if any of my previous personal data is tied to my "new" account, have I proven that my personal data wasn't entirely deleted since Facebook could still uniquely identify me?

Yes. I'm waiting to delete my account until after the 25th because: * There's slightly more of a chance they'll actually delete my data * If they don't, I'll be entitled to be a part of any class-action.

> If they don't, I'll be entitled to be a part of any class-action.

I am absolutely shocked to discover that Facebook doesn't have a class action waiver in their terms.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by Silhouette »

cromulen wrote: post #9
lamename wrote: post #6

This 'Download Your Data' tool is highlighted every few years when ire toward facebook is renewed, but while appealing it's never seemed more than table scraps to me looking at the data. Even without looking, the idea that a data broker would just willingly give us all the information it has is unbelievable. The scale is so large, how would you even know?

They don't have a choice under GDPR.

They don't have a choice under existing data protection legislation in much of the EU either, but that doesn't appear to have stopped them.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by GuB-42 »

mtremsal wrote: post #18

Thought experiment: if after 5/25, I download my data, then revoke consent and delete my account, then a while later reactivate my account and log back in -- if any of my previous personal data is tied to my "new" account, have I proven that my personal data wasn't entirely deleted since Facebook could still uniquely identify me?

If you delete your account, only your data is erased, not your "ghost profile".

I don't know if it is the official term but your ghost is all the data Facebook has about you that doesn't come from you. For example, friends can talk about you and even tag you even if you never touched Facebook. It means that if you are the only one within your group of friends not using Facebook, they already know pretty much everything they need to know.

If you delete your account, unless all your friends do the same, your ghost won't disappear, and it can be easily reconnected if you create a new account.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by Silhouette »

notimetorelax wrote: post #4

I’m thinking, GDPR is not live yet. They might expand the type of data they export in a month.

In theory, GDPR doesn't change very much in this area. Data subjects already had similar rights to access personal data about them under existing law in much of the EU. The potential fines for non-compliance may be much bigger, though. There is also some expansion in what constitutes personal data under the GDPR, which might be relevant if we're talking about areas where you could have tried to argue they didn't count before but they're going to be explicitly covered in the new scheme.

Re: What’s Not Included in Facebook’s “Download Your Data”

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Post by Alan___ »

fredley wrote: post #19
mtremsal wrote: post #18

Thought experiment: if after 5/25, I download my data, then revoke consent and delete my account, then a while later reactivate my account and log back in -- if any of my previous personal data is tied to my "new" account, have I proven that my personal data wasn't entirely deleted since Facebook could still uniquely identify me?

Yes. I'm waiting to delete my account until after the 25th because: * There's slightly more of a chance they'll actually delete my data * If they don't, I'll be entitled to be a part of any class-action.

I recently received an email with subject "Alan, please accept our updated Terms by May 25 to continue using Facebook".

Currently I haven't done anything in response to it. I don't want my account but it's not clear what happens should I not accept. Does my account get deleted, or does it just get put in purgatory? Should I login and just delete after the 25th?

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