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I believe Apple is adding something like this to iCloud fairly soon, as part of GDPR preparations.
Man I hope you are correct. I love google having all my devices with apps and permissions granted all in one place. I hope Apple copies exactly. Plus finally disclose what they are collecting and able to remove and download like Google.
After Facebook scrutiny, is Google next?
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Re: After Facebook scrutiny, is Google next?
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G Suite for Gmail, Docs, Drive, Calendar + phone support + other stuff: https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html Or, Drive storage by itself, which applies to most products with storage quotas such as Gmail and Photos: https://www.google.com/drive/pricing/ For YouTube, YouTube Red: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6305537 Another interesting experiment in the willingness of users to pay to remove ads is Google…
To add to this, since I've started using GSuite for my personal account, I feel a hundred thousand times more comfortable with Google. 1. My Google identity is now my real email, the one tied to my real domain that I myself own. That's so much better. I can comfortably sign in/sign up with Google to other sites, have them tied to that email instead of my @gmail.com one. 2. I feel way more comfortable sharing every si…
This is pretty good. I've been considering moving over to Apple for everything to avoid Google, but this offers a partial solution.
If only I could pay a monthly fee to include search and maps!
Re: After Facebook scrutiny, is Google next?
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Man I hope you are correct. I love google having all my devices with apps and permissions granted all in one place. I hope Apple copies exactly. Plus finally disclose what they are collecting and able to remove and download like Google.
Here you go: https://www.computerworld.com/article/3268826/mobile-wireles...
Thanks for the link! But I am in the US? Will Apple be transparent in the US like Google is?
More than anything I just want to be able to remove what Apple has on me as I want all my data in a single place when possible.
So I share my location with my family with Google Maps and do NOT want my location also to be at Apple for example.
But Apple is the worse like this. They are far less transparent than Google and that bugs me about Apple.
Plus considering Apple gave all their users data over to the China government versus Google fought the China government Apple has a horrible record with privacy and looks for a buck will give up your data.
Re: After Facebook scrutiny, is Google next?
#244Concerned that google has so much info ( https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity ) I visited https://myaccount.google.com/activitycontrols to turn off Web & App Activity, but left Voice & Audio Activity on. This breaks my google home. I do not want Google to save 20 years of search history so I can use a stupid google home. For the first time I'm considering Apple's device. This is a dark pattern Google
This has been my stance for about five years now. I don’t want to give all this info to companies I don’t trust. Apple devices might cost more, but Apple only makes money from you when you give them money. Google and Facebook make money when you give them money and then make money when you give them information too. There’s a perverse incentive, they want you to use it more and give them more information because they…
What? Apple handed over ALL their user data in China over to the government for a buck versus Google fought back and left.
'Campaign targets Apple over privacy betrayal for Chinese iCloud users"
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy...
Then removed the VPN software and cut their users off at the knees from being able to protect themselves. While the way to keep your data private in China is use Google Fi.
"Using Project Fi in China: Say goodbye to VPNs"
https://www.androidauthority.com/using-google-fi-in-china-85...
Have to look past marketing and what is real.
My biggest grip is Apple terms allow them to have a ton of your data but there is no transparency like with Google.
Google provides a dashboard with everytthing in one place were you can remove and download. Nothing similar from Apple.
So when I share my location with imessages how do I remove that? Where can I see it? Google is far better.
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This has been my stance for about five years now. I don’t want to give all this info to companies I don’t trust. Apple devices might cost more, but Apple only makes money from you when you give them money. Google and Facebook make money when you give them money and then make money when you give them information too. There’s a perverse incentive, they want you to use it more and give them more information because they…
I'm pretty sure that one day Apple will also use / sell your data. Why? Because it makes them even more money...
Agree. Plus out of all the big tech companies Apple has the worse record of selling user data than anyone. By far.
"Campaign targets Apple over privacy betrayal for Chinese iCloud users"
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy...
They sold all their customers data in China to the government so they could stay in China. Versus Google did NOT and instead chose to leave instead of selling the data.
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No they won't. They'll know that there exists a person who probably likes pizza and is gay. They don't know who that person is.
They do. The first step is that you are only shown the ad if you are gay. This means that if somebody clicks the ad, then they must be gay. The second step is that if you click the ad and order the pizza, the pizza company (=bad actor) will ask for your details (e.g. name, address). This information can then be coupled to your sexual orientation. And this happens without you knowing. All you think is that you are ord…
It’s funny that you claim this yet there are posts all over this thread about how crappy the ad targeting is.
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What evidence do you have for this baseless accusation? Apple have been hammering Google on privacy for many years and they have an incredible track record on privacy when they’ve had their feet held to the fire with the FBI.
To play devil's advocate, I can see a world in which Apple as a publicly traded company is hard pressed into returning stronger results for its investors and turns to data as a way to expand. Not saying it will happen as there is no indicator that they need or want to. However, it is important to note that it isn't outside the realm of possibility at all.
Is Apple not handing over all their user data in China not an example of Apple already doing this?
I meant if they did not they have to leave China like Google chose to do. It was for a buck versus Google thought the bucks to give up their users data not worth it.
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To play devil's advocate, I can see a world in which Apple as a publicly traded company is hard pressed into returning stronger results for its investors and turns to data as a way to expand. Not saying it will happen as there is no indicator that they need or want to. However, it is important to note that it isn't outside the realm of possibility at all.
Apple are pushing privacy as a key differentiator and also to justify their premium price tag. Selling out on privacy would torpedo that USP. Trust is gained in drops and lost in buckets. Yes in a world of infinite possibilities anything can happen, but realistically Apple is incentivized to maintain their privacy position.
Pushing is different than reality though.
"Campaign targets Apple over privacy betrayal for Chinese iCloud users"
Apple sold all their users data in China. Should that not count?
Re: After Facebook scrutiny, is Google next?
#249This may be the minority opinion here. But Facebook, Google, and all these other shady companies that collects massive personal data, in ways that were never envisioned of being collected. They need to be reigned in. They have overstepped their boundaries of what is socially acceptable. Facebook should just call themselves the FBIbook, because they have amassed such huge amounts of private data on us. And they have a…
Same with Apple? I mean they basically sold all their user data in China.
"Campaign targets Apple over privacy betrayal for Chinese iCloud users"
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy...
Versus Google chose to not sell their user data in China and left.
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I got a number of people to switch to DuckDuckGo by sending DDG query url's to them: "Hey, there is a ton of info on this subject!" (sends DDG query)
DDG uses Google. If they grow too big Google will just switch them off..
DDG, in fact, uses Bing. [1][2]
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/4lgda4/duckduck...
[2] https://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/01/duckduckgo-yahoo-partnersh...