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Wow so much hate in this thread. First, the author is not doing this for his CV. Second, the benefits of using electron are enormous for any JS developer and there are a lot. Third, I also hate electron apps and wouldn’t use this app, but I’m not going to jump back to “why electron is bad” discussion, since I can’t suggest anything better in 2018.
Maybe I'm missing something... is there a benefit to this over a normal terminal/terminal emulator? (eg xterm, mac terminal etc)? As far as I can tell, putting it in electron would mean that you could embed arbitrary HTML structures inside the terminal (like web page previews or something), but from what I've read, it doesn't look like that's the goal.
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- Easier to make a multiplatform application, compared to alternatives. - Makes it possible for people who don't know (and/or don't want to know) anything beyond the web stack to build "desktop" applications. - Easy to make it look nice by default, because you can reuse all the work that went into building the browser as a runtime, + you have a ton of eyecandy JS libraries to choose from.
Also you can have interesting rendering possibilities like in-line display of images, charts, tables. Longer-term: new generation of command-line tools with different ux paradigms for interactive use? Like, Funny that people "get" jupityr notebooks but not this.
I had high hopes for this project. Particularly considering the fact default terminal in Windows is a total crap and it seems Microsoft is not interested at all to fix the problems (yeah, I know, they are saying they are working on it but they haven’t delivered in 3 years, how hard it is to add unlimited scroll bar option? Or hide scroll bar?. I wish I could’ve run gnome-terminal in Windows.) Back to hyper. Hyper dis…
If it's just drawing pixels… what's the benefit of the web stack?
- Easier to make a multiplatform application, compared to alternatives. - Makes it possible for people who don't know (and/or don't want to know) anything beyond the web stack to build "desktop" applications. - Easy to make it look nice by default, because you can reuse all the work that went into building the browser as a runtime, + you have a ton of eyecandy JS libraries to choose from.
If your target machine can run an electron based shell, you can leave the shell alone and just run your web app.
>- Makes it possible for people who don't know (and/or don't want to know) anything beyond the web stack to build "desktop" applications.
Again, changing the shell does what exactly? Just build the web app you knew how to build...
I'm really looking forward to learning Flutter (https://flutter.io) so I can finally do some mobile based application development in a cross platform manner without having to use JavaScript. Prior to Flutter I was considering Swift and Kotlin and just maintaining two code bases (and two languages.) Hopefully I won't need to now.
On desktops I would just go native. Is it really that hard to maintain several code bases? Is there literally no other options at all? I'm considering Go + QT here, or something along those lines.
Maybe I'm missing something... is there a benefit to this over a normal terminal/terminal emulator? (eg xterm, mac terminal etc)? As far as I can tell, putting it in electron would mean that you could embed arbitrary HTML structures inside the terminal (like web page previews or something), but from what I've read, it doesn't look like that's the goal.
I've always wanted a terminal with bloom effects and it seems that Hyper 2 might be able to provide that. But I haven't found a theme that does that, and I haven't wanted it enough to look into that.
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The whole electron stack disgusts me. Mainly because of battery usage on my laptop and my phone! Its a clear example of "We can do it but should we do we?" The answer is NO!
hey, how else can I change the transparency of my shell with css ?
Like I've said a million times, https://medium.com/p/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32 Why would you use a full web stack terminal emulator, over.. well a normal native and actually reasonably fast terminal emulator? The trend is catching on, so maybe one day we can't even reach for a native email client because it will be unmaintained in favour of the hackable html webstack email client. Congratulations on reaching v2…
Being web-based gives you a standard way for fetching and displaying content. It's just a matter of time that the performance improves. Especially when many people are experimenting with it.
> maybe one day we can't even reach for a native email client because it will be unmaintained in favour of the hackable html webstack email client.
It's definitely possible, once the browser becomes the new OS.
Wow so much hate in this thread. First, the author is not doing this for his CV. Second, the benefits of using electron are enormous for any JS developer and there are a lot. Third, I also hate electron apps and wouldn’t use this app, but I’m not going to jump back to “why electron is bad” discussion, since I can’t suggest anything better in 2018.
What about good ol' QT?
I think they are still unmaintained and also are lacking the community around it. I think GitHub embracing Chrome-wrapped-apps was a significant move, since no other company did something similar for desktop javascript applications.
Maybe we will need to wait a bit more, until some of the big tech companies realises that having better QT / GTK bindings and build tools, examples, proper documentation will benefit a lot the company and the community around it. Until then, we are stuck.