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Re: Hyper 2, Electron based terminal

#11
post #6

If it's just drawing pixels… what's the benefit of the web stack?

- Easier to make a multiplatform application, compared to alternatives.

- Makes it possible for people who don't know (and/or don't want to know) anything beyond the web stack to build "desktop" applications.

- Easy to make it look nice by default, because you can reuse all the work that went into building the browser as a runtime, + you have a ton of eyecandy JS libraries to choose from.

Re: Hyper 2, Electron based terminal

#12
Maybe I'm missing something... is there a benefit to this over a normal terminal/terminal emulator? (eg xterm, mac terminal etc)?

As far as I can tell, putting it in electron would mean that you could embed arbitrary HTML structures inside the terminal (like web page previews or something), but from what I've read, it doesn't look like that's the goal.

Re: Hyper 2, Electron based terminal

#13
Pop quiz: what's more ridiculous, nodejs based command line utilities that do the same thing as two existing shell utilities and a pipe or a while loop etc; OR, an electron "shell"... which can then run those same nodejs "utilities"...

Oh maybe that's the whole point. They want "it's javascript all the way down".

I think I'd literally rather use a shell built on actual turtles. A turtle-shell, if you will.

Re: Hyper 2, Electron based terminal

#15
Like I've said a million times, https://medium.com/p/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32

Why would you use a full web stack terminal emulator, over.. well a normal native and actually reasonably fast terminal emulator?

The trend is catching on, so maybe one day we can't even reach for a native email client because it will be unmaintained in favour of the hackable html webstack email client.

Congratulations on reaching v2 tho!

Re: Hyper 2, Electron based terminal

#17
I had high hopes for this project. Particularly considering the fact default terminal in Windows is a total crap and it seems Microsoft is not interested at all to fix the problems (yeah, I know, they are saying they are working on it but they haven’t delivered in 3 years, how hard it is to add unlimited scroll bar option? Or hide scroll bar?. I wish I could’ve run gnome-terminal in Windows.)

Back to hyper. Hyper disappointed me.

1) Text wrapping is a such important feature in modern terminal emulators I cannot live without. They added text reflow in 2.0 as far as I checked. But when you use you would see it is complete disaster. Text does not wrap sometime. Sometime it completely erased. So long story short it is completely buggy.

2) Start up time is horrible. Electron based app should generally design a background service and a UI process. This way when you launch UI it would be way faster than cold start up. I do this for chrome, slack, discordapp, etc. I wish they had better architecture and was a option to enable background thread or service.

Re: Hyper 2, Electron based terminal

#19

I am using Hyper 2 since the beta and I really like it. It has replaced iTerm for me. Performance may still be an issue for some people. For example, printing to stdout seems slower on Hyper than on, let's say iTerm. To me it is noticeable but still feels nearly instant.

Why did you choose Hyper? IMVHO iTerm2 is still far way better as a terminal.
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