Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or they can stop colluding with Russia under the pretext of freedom
> Or they can stop colluding with Russia under the pretext of freedom Could you provide a source? I'd love to know more.
Coinbase blocks WikiLeaks Shop
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Re: Coinbase blocks WikiLeaks Shop
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't worry guys, the DNC said so, so it must be true!
"It is time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is – a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia. In January of this year, our Intelligence Community determined that Russian military intelligence—the GRU—had used WikiLeaks to release data of US victims that the GRU had obtained through cyber operations against the Democratic National Committee. And the report also found tha…
Lets imagine we had a list over every official leaked story that an intelligence service has given to any of the global large news papers. NYT, guardian, CNN, fox news and so on.
Can we assume that that list is not empty? Is it not likely that a few stories that the guardian has posted is from US intelligence service, knowingly or unknowing. If so, should we label them also non-state hostile intelligence service? I would bet that this is how other nations would justify blocking unwanted news papers in national firewalls. They are after all not blocking the free press but rather the (non-)state hostile intelligence service.
What would a reasonable definition be of a hostile intelligence service.
Re: Coinbase blocks WikiLeaks Shop
#33I cannot recommend Coinbase at all. I operate an adult comic book publisher and they shutdown our account without notice and blamed the bank they work with (despite the fact that we were not converting our BTC to USD). All support tickets took weeks to get a reply and it was always unhelpful. For a company like ours the whole appeal of Bitcoin is the anonymity, so our readers don't have to worry about buying lewd com…
What is the use of coinbase? you can accept payments directly
I think that the barrier to entry to accepting bitcoin or cryto payments in general directly can be fairly high, depending on the ecosystem. It's been intimidating to me.
I'd love to see a collection of crypto tutorials to get started accepting payments and buying coins in any ecosystem.
Maybe another commenter has a good source?
Re: Coinbase blocks WikiLeaks Shop
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
"It is time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is – a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia. In January of this year, our Intelligence Community determined that Russian military intelligence—the GRU—had used WikiLeaks to release data of US victims that the GRU had obtained through cyber operations against the Democratic National Committee. And the report also found tha…
Even if Satan himself proved he was real and aided Wikileaks by publishing true information, I'd be all for it. What's being suggested is that they selectively publish true information by not publishing certain things that don't suit a particular agenda. This accusation is being asserted without evidence, and can therefore be dismissed without evidence.
So the intelligence community's conclusion that the GRU hacked the RNC, and the Republican administration CIA director's endorsement of that report doesn't hold any weight whatsoever? When the civil servants and the political appointees of two administrations from different parties all three agree that the DNC and RNC were both hacked and exactly one set of data was leaked, does that carry no weight at all? If it wasn't true, why isn't the RNC chair out there insisting they weren't hacked?
Re: Coinbase blocks WikiLeaks Shop
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
But it is good to know what is coinbase's moral compass.
Coinbase has been fishy from the start... For example, I placed buy orders for some Bitcoins when they dropped sharply years ago (Coinbase just started at that time) and they canceled those orders after I placed them. Now what they do is that they bring the servers down when it happens. They did the same with Bitcoin Cash, or maybe worst... (see stories about when they first introduced bitcoin cash)
> Now what they do is that they bring the servers down when it happens.
That's a pretty bold allegation. Do you have any evidence that this is the case.
Re: Coinbase blocks WikiLeaks Shop
#36Why do you even need a payment processor to accept money via BTC? Can't it be sent directly from one address to another?
Re: Coinbase blocks WikiLeaks Shop
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
"It is time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is – a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia. In January of this year, our Intelligence Community determined that Russian military intelligence—the GRU—had used WikiLeaks to release data of US victims that the GRU had obtained through cyber operations against the Democratic National Committee. And the report also found tha…
“hostile intelligence service” here being used as a euphemism for “a journalist publishing secrets we don’t want published”.
Wikileaks are not journalists and they do not follow e.g. journalistic ethics. They've done unprofessional things like posting anti-semitic statements[1] and bizarre things like doxing most of the women in Turkey[2] or posting sensitive information about people who've been victims of rape, suffer from mental illnesses, or are gay in countries where that's a big risk. That's all politically neutral and completely outside of what real journalists would sanction.
They may not be officially part of the Russian intelligence apparatus but they definitely don't seem to act contrary to Russian interests, they actively ignored leaks about the Russian government[4], and their public tweets about the Panama Papers were a lot more consistent with protecting Russian interests rather than the purported belief in exposing secrets[5]. They also didn't ask whether they were being used by sources like Guccifer 2 which was later revealed to be a Russian front.
Other governments have come to the same conclusion – e.g. here's a German report which alleges British and French agreement:
http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/merkel-vorgefuehrt-russi...
1. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/07/25/what_wikil...
2. http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/07/why-did-wikileaks-help-do...
3. https://apnews.com/b70da83fd111496dbdf015acbb7987fb/private-...
4. http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-le...
5. https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/7174580643249643... and https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/7176700566505308...
Re: Coinbase blocks WikiLeaks Shop
#38Why do you even need a payment processor to accept money via BTC? Can't it be sent directly from one address to another?
Yes but processing is useful for invoicing, e-commerce, etc.
Re: Coinbase blocks WikiLeaks Shop
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Coinbase has been fishy from the start... For example, I placed buy orders for some Bitcoins when they dropped sharply years ago (Coinbase just started at that time) and they canceled those orders after I placed them. Now what they do is that they bring the servers down when it happens. They did the same with Bitcoin Cash, or maybe worst... (see stories about when they first introduced bitcoin cash)
> Now what they do is that they bring the servers down when it happens. That's a pretty bold allegation. Do you have any evidence that this is the case.
No. It was just such a common occurrence that I could not come to a different conclusion.
If you need many examples, look for Reddit threads that talk about Coinbase created right after Bitcoin dips.
Re: Coinbase blocks WikiLeaks Shop
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
"It is time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is – a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia. In January of this year, our Intelligence Community determined that Russian military intelligence—the GRU—had used WikiLeaks to release data of US victims that the GRU had obtained through cyber operations against the Democratic National Committee. And the report also found tha…
Even if Satan himself proved he was real and aided Wikileaks by publishing true information, I'd be all for it. What's being suggested is that they selectively publish true information by not publishing certain things that don't suit a particular agenda. This accusation is being asserted without evidence, and can therefore be dismissed without evidence.
It's also a ridiculous argument since Wikileaks does not have a monopoly on leaking secrets. Any whistleblowers who were censored by Wikileaks can not only find another channel to release their original documents, but also have another piece of important news about a provable systematic bias in Wikileaks'publishing patterns.