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Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

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Post by Mononokay »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #150
onethumb wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will move heaven and earth to solve this for you. We're moving off of Yahoo Auth as soon as we can, but can likely fix before that (which will take awhile). Raising this up the flag pole.

Yeah I'm stuck in Yahoo purgatory too. I have a Flickr account pointing at a valid email address, and an existing desktop and mobile session for that Flickr account. However, I can't actually create a new session by logging in because Yahoo wants to do its 2FA thing with a defunct email address. I can't add a valid email address to the Yahoo account because I need to create a new session to do this. The defunct addre…

Apparently you should see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16889578

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

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Post by tuxracer »

onethumb wrote: post #48
redm wrote: post #44

Great news, I enjoy seeing old sites like Flickr being saved from oblivion. SmugMug is a great company too. On a side note, this is a terrible announcement page when viewed on FireFox 59. It's barely usable. It works well on Chrome though. Its either poor design by SmugMug, superior design by Google Chrome, or leveraging some capability of chrome not available on FireFox. The cake flying is delayed by 1+ second each…

We did a ton of cross-browser testing, but it's possible we missed something or had a regression. Checking. Thanks for letting me know!

This site definitely kills the Firefox on both Mac and Android (can barely scroll or not at all). Hopefully not a sign of things to come...

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

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Post by jayliew »

onethumb wrote: post #45
audiometry wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don— I was a paying customer too. Then Flickr changed their login, forcing me to get a yahoo account, which I then lost over time. So for years now, my account, and all the photos of my 1-3yo kid are buried and locked behind the “you need (login) and pay premium access to see all your photos”. All because that stupid yahoo login integration. Unrecoverable.

I will move heaven and earth to solve this for you. We're moving off of Yahoo Auth as soon as we can, but can likely fix before that (which will take awhile). Raising this up the flag pole.

Warms my heart to see this. This is compassion for customers at its finest.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

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Post by silveira »

onethumb wrote: post #34
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #16

This is exciting! I've long believed that Flickr should have doubled down on their existing users instead of trying to become another Instagram. Over on the USA Today article[0], there's this line: A longtime fan of Flickr, MacAskill says before making any decisions, he plans to collect feedback from employees and users. Hey Don - I used to pay money for Flickr, and I'm happy to start paying again if there is evidenc…

Don here, thanks so much for the vote of confidence. Big job ahead of us, but the community is the reason we did this. We want to invest, innovate and grow there. We'll be working hard. But first I have a lot of learning to do. Stay tuned.

Hi Don, I have been a pro member of Flickr since 2008. I love the product and I'm very excited by this acquisition.

What I really would like to see in Flickr is a reliable upload application. When I'm back from a trip, I usually have a few gigabytes of photos. Regular applications can handle small (hundreds megabytes) batches but when you are talking about gigabytes they start crashing, or stopping in the middle, and cannot continue where they stopped reliably. I would like an application that uploads to Flickr, with retries, status, and with checksum verification on the client and in the server.

The same is true for download. Flickr handle well individual downloads and small batches of download. But when trying to download large albums they simple cannot handle it.

I have been writing my own applications and scripts to handle my photos on Flickr, so it's absolutely important to keep the current API open.

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Post by mygo »

wccrawford wrote: post #183
jjguy wrote: post #41

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This is why I continue to hang out on HN. Is there anywhere else on the internet this kind of connection would happen?

Reddit has a tendency to gain so much momentum that companies can't ignore people that are having problems like this. In that case, you often see a rep from the company log in and start triageing the situation. Don here is clearly much more on top of the situation than that, but my point is that any big social site ends up seeing this with enough outrage.

I don’t think that facebook facilitates this well. Since you have to go out of your way to find a discussion there. And there is no “right now” feeling if you do find a relevant discussion. But here I just visited the home page of what I consider a general newsfeed and we’re talking to their new owners.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

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Post by stevenicr »

fencepost wrote: post #208
stevenicr wrote: post #165

I have always loved flickr, and always worrried investor or wall street pressure would ruin it by causing it to censor more. Flickr has been able to keep naughty pics and groups and made mini social network groups that don't require real names. It's a little known bastion of the old net in some ways. Now that oauth is pushing these logging / sharing terms updates, I am glad they are getting rid of flickr. I just hope…

I believe elsewhere in the thread someone stated that SmugMug's terms (including on content) would also apply to Flickr starting in late May, so that's something to look into.

thanks for pointing this out, took me a bit to find the terms. There is this gem "obscene, pornographic, indecent, lewd, sexually suggestive, hateful, harassing, threatening, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, abusive, inflammatory, fraudulent or otherwise objectionable or harmful, including without limitation: Photos, Videos or other User Content containing nudity that would be unacceptable in a public museum where minors visit;"

Looks like they are ruining flickr right out the gate.

thankfully it is quite easy to start a flickr clone these days. buddypress with rtmedia or mediapress and bam it's done.

I was going to start podcasting with anchor fm, but reading over their terms it would be trivial for one group to to get another banned easily and vice versa, so there is no staying power / ownership of data there.

Seeing the loss of data when an account is deactivated at tumblr, fbk, gplus, or other portals, it's not worth creating a community or group within these digital sharecropping portals.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

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Post by throwawayad7d9f »

onethumb wrote: post #34
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #16

This is exciting! I've long believed that Flickr should have doubled down on their existing users instead of trying to become another Instagram. Over on the USA Today article[0], there's this line: A longtime fan of Flickr, MacAskill says before making any decisions, he plans to collect feedback from employees and users. Hey Don - I used to pay money for Flickr, and I'm happy to start paying again if there is evidenc…

Don here, thanks so much for the vote of confidence. Big job ahead of us, but the community is the reason we did this. We want to invest, innovate and grow there. We'll be working hard. But first I have a lot of learning to do. Stay tuned.

Hi Don,

Since you're here and talking about community, can you say what your approach is going to be to the copious content on Flickr that violates SmugMug's content policy (but not Flickr's)?

Flickr's approach in the past [0] has allowed most things as long as a content filter is applied to keep it from kids and those who don't want to see it. SmugMug's approach [1] is to very broadly ban anything "indecent" in any context whatsoever (even private backups).

I contacted support and the story right now is that SmugMug policy will apply and any Flickr content that violates it is up for removal. Are you sticking to that? If so, why? It seems like a very destructive thing to do to the community as your first act after acquisition.

[0] https://www.flickr.com/help/guidelines

[1] https://www.smugmug.com/about/terms

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

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Post by adjagu »

silveira wrote: post #215
onethumb wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don here, thanks so much for the vote of confidence. Big job ahead of us, but the community is the reason we did this. We want to invest, innovate and grow there. We'll be working hard. But first I have a lot of learning to do. Stay tuned.

Hi Don, I have been a pro member of Flickr since 2008. I love the product and I'm very excited by this acquisition. What I really would like to see in Flickr is a reliable upload application. When I'm back from a trip, I usually have a few gigabytes of photos. Regular applications can handle small (hundreds megabytes) batches but when you are talking about gigabytes they start crashing, or stopping in the middle, and…

@silveira would any of your applications work on linux and if so would you be willing to share? I've been trying to download my Flickr photographs and so far only single image download works for me.
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