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Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don here, thanks so much for the vote of confidence. Big job ahead of us, but the community is the reason we did this. We want to invest, innovate and grow there. We'll be working hard. But first I have a lot of learning to do. Stay tuned.

long time flickr user - I would love to continue paying for the service!

We'd love to have you keep paying! And we'd love to put your payment to work improving the service for you and everyone else. Thanks!

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#142
post #102

This is exciting! I've long believed that Flickr should have doubled down on their existing users instead of trying to become another Instagram. Over on the USA Today article[0], there's this line: A longtime fan of Flickr, MacAskill says before making any decisions, he plans to collect feedback from employees and users. Hey Don - I used to pay money for Flickr, and I'm happy to start paying again if there is evidenc…

I think the focus on community is paramount. Make it into a Photographer's go-to watering hole. Serious groups like organizing shows, workshops, quality book printing, blogging (for news and events), and better ways to organize and display photos of interest [group a series of photos regardless of member [so long as the photo was public] --like the group pool stream but allow to showcase photos from sources other the…

I agree. Flickr's community is unique in the world and on the Internet. That's where we'd like to invest.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#143

This is the best possible news for Flickr and its community. I've known the SmugMug founders from the beginning. First of all, they're one of the nicest people you can imagine. They're also super committed to the photographers and the photography community. Everyone there is not only a photo geek, but they're constantly helping, supporting and promoting photographers. 4 of my photos are printed in large size (one is…

I think it will be very important how they deal with the Flickr UI. Whether they will - change Flickr to look more like SmugMug (if at all the platforms are not merged), - or leave it as it is today (the slow, heavy, and glossy Flickr), - or try to bring back something close to the blazing fast Flickr days when it looked so clean and minimal and was not at all glossy. Many of us are pining for the latter.

Definitely not merging. Beyond that, I'm in learning mode while we figure out what people want, what's healthy for the community, what sustains the business. Then we'll go build that. :)

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#144

Long term Flickr user here, since the start and a paying customer. In the groups that I’m active in there is a thriving community and it would be a shame if that was compromised. I know people here are happy that it is out from the yoke of Yahoo, but over the years I’ve seen so many products that I use get bought up, enthusiastically changed, and then ruined or closed down by the new owners. Please don’t ruin it with…

We'll work very hard to not ruin Flickr. After successfully not ruining it, we'll work even hard to make it better than its already awesome self. ;)

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#145

how confident of them to use YouTube for this announcement rather than flickr's own video hosting service.

Best tool for the job. SmugMug does video, too, but there's no-one in the world that does video as well as YouTube for this sort of thing. That's ok - we're way better at photos than YouTube is. :)

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#146
1. Pinboard charges money for their product and eventually buys former free-product competitor Delicious.

2. Smugmug charges money for their product and eventually buys free-product competitor Flickr.

Charging customers for your service really does help you win in the long run.

Edit: Taken from this tweet - https://twitter.com/zachleat/status/987523973612298240

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#147
post #28

So what will happen to users who have a smugmug and Flickr account? Will they do an almost merge ala Google and YouTube?

We're not planning on merging the products, but we realize there are customers with both that might like them to be even easier to use together. I don't know what shape that'll look like yet, or when you might expect it, but I'm excited to dig in and find out.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#148
post #146

1. Pinboard charges money for their product and eventually buys former free-product competitor Delicious. 2. Smugmug charges money for their product and eventually buys free-product competitor Flickr. Charging customers for your service really does help you win in the long run. Edit: Taken from this tweet - https://twitter.com/zachleat/status/987523973612298240

I’ve paid for a Flickr Pro account for several years, it wasn’t a free-product to begin with.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#149
On the one hand, I'm happy that Flickr will stay alive but on the other, I'm worried about what Smugmug will do to it regarding policy.

Smugmug's Acceptable Use Policy [0] is rather puritan, forbidding things that are "indecent", "lewd", "sexually suggestive" or anything else that "in the sole judgment of SmugMug, is objectionable, harmful".

Flickr's [1] on the other hand is rather accepting: "If you would hesitate to show your photos or videos to a child, your family, or a stranger on the street, that means you need to set the appropriate content filter setting."

I really hope Smugmug doesn't force their ideals on Flickr. It'd be nice if instead they used Flickr as an example of how to loosen content restrictions on Smugmug.

[0]: https://www.smugmug.com/about/terms

[1]: https://www.flickr.com/help/guidelines

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don— I was a paying customer too. Then Flickr changed their login, forcing me to get a yahoo account, which I then lost over time. So for years now, my account, and all the photos of my 1-3yo kid are buried and locked behind the “you need (login) and pay premium access to see all your photos”. All because that stupid yahoo login integration. Unrecoverable.

I will move heaven and earth to solve this for you. We're moving off of Yahoo Auth as soon as we can, but can likely fix before that (which will take awhile). Raising this up the flag pole.

Yeah I'm stuck in Yahoo purgatory too. I have a Flickr account pointing at a valid email address, and an existing desktop and mobile session for that Flickr account. However, I can't actually create a new session by logging in because Yahoo wants to do its 2FA thing with a defunct email address. I can't add a valid email address to the Yahoo account because I need to create a new session to do this. The defunct address itself is no longer associated with the Flickr account and Yahoo/Verizon support has formally abandoned account support.

vOv

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