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Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

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Post by lobster_johnson »

et-al wrote: post #55
onethumb wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don here, thanks so much for the vote of confidence. Big job ahead of us, but the community is the reason we did this. We want to invest, innovate and grow there. We'll be working hard. But first I have a lot of learning to do. Stay tuned.

Hi Don, Since you're here, may I voice a thing I really enjoyed about Flickr? Community and actual human communication. Perhaps in the mobile era this isn't possible anymore since everyone is attention starved and tiny screens and keyboards aren't conducive to longform communication, but this was Flickr's strength. You'd find a group where your photos were relevant and start conversations with strangers halfway aroun…

Back in 2006 or so when I last used Flickr, one of my biggest problems was spam and noise. One of the biggest annoyances was the constant comments from "award groups" that wanted you to join them, enticing you with some arbitrary "award", which consisted of some kind of gaudy badge.

To be honest, most of the Flickr groups seemed completely useless, full of HDR junk and asinine motivational stuff. Though I'm sure it's a bit like Reddit — the good communities are small and hidden.

Follower spam is another example of noise, and something Instagram is also rife with.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#92

Post by djsumdog »

geuis wrote: post #58

What a terrible design on that page. Just a bunch of stuff moving around on mobile.

I agree. I have not heard of Smugmug before now; although I did use to have a paid Flickr account at one time and I hope they do better with it than Yahoo.

But yes, that announcement page is god awful. The scrolling is slow, over done and a crazy bandwidth hog. That weird scroll hijacking shit needs to die in a fire. Some are cute if done right, but lately they're just super over done and useless.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#93

Post by chrissnell »

onethumb wrote: post #34
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #16

This is exciting! I've long believed that Flickr should have doubled down on their existing users instead of trying to become another Instagram. Over on the USA Today article[0], there's this line: A longtime fan of Flickr, MacAskill says before making any decisions, he plans to collect feedback from employees and users. Hey Don - I used to pay money for Flickr, and I'm happy to start paying again if there is evidenc…

Don here, thanks so much for the vote of confidence. Big job ahead of us, but the community is the reason we did this. We want to invest, innovate and grow there. We'll be working hard. But first I have a lot of learning to do. Stay tuned.

Hi Don,

I've been a Pro user of Flickr since 2005 or so. I actually thought for the first time this year that I would cancel it. My number-one complaint is speed. It's so slow. As a professional infrastructure guy, it just kills me and I wished I could buy the company myself and make it fast again. I really hope you will invest in revitalizing this service because I really don't want to go.

My life--from young skier/mountaineer guy--to Army soldier--to dating a girl--marriage--kids--it's all documented there. I look at my old photos all the time but it's just so unbearably slow.

Chris aka https://flickr.com/photos/Defender90

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#94

Post by ausjke »

chrissnell wrote: post #93
onethumb wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don here, thanks so much for the vote of confidence. Big job ahead of us, but the community is the reason we did this. We want to invest, innovate and grow there. We'll be working hard. But first I have a lot of learning to do. Stay tuned.

Hi Don, I've been a Pro user of Flickr since 2005 or so. I actually thought for the first time this year that I would cancel it. My number-one complaint is speed. It's so slow. As a professional infrastructure guy, it just kills me and I wished I could buy the company myself and make it fast again. I really hope you will invest in revitalizing this service because I really don't want to go. My life--from young skier/…

same here, pro user for 10+ years and I rarely use flickr these days but have been letting my credit card renew nonetheless. please revive flickr.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#95

Post by djsumdog »

downer68 wrote: post #56

Jesus christ, that fucking name, though. "smugmug" Can they drop that, and retain flickr, please. Please?

I agree. I had never heard of Smugmug until just now. I want to call it "Smug hug" or "Smug hub" .. no one is going to remember that name correctly. It's awful.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#96

Post by et-al »

lobster_johnson wrote: post #91
et-al wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Don, Since you're here, may I voice a thing I really enjoyed about Flickr? Community and actual human communication. Perhaps in the mobile era this isn't possible anymore since everyone is attention starved and tiny screens and keyboards aren't conducive to longform communication, but this was Flickr's strength. You'd find a group where your photos were relevant and start conversations with strangers halfway aroun…

Back in 2006 or so when I last used Flickr, one of my biggest problems was spam and noise. One of the biggest annoyances was the constant comments from "award groups" that wanted you to join them, enticing you with some arbitrary "award", which consisted of some kind of gaudy badge. To be honest, most of the Flickr groups seemed completely useless, full of HDR junk and asinine motivational stuff. Though I'm sure it's…

I forgot about those gaudy animated badges.

Social media does have tough challenges ahead, especially as bots/spam become more and more prevalent.

I would love to work on a bot-prevention team somewhere, but my background isn't in ML.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#97

Post by alanfalcon »

et-al wrote: post #96
lobster_johnson wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back in 2006 or so when I last used Flickr, one of my biggest problems was spam and noise. One of the biggest annoyances was the constant comments from "award groups" that wanted you to join them, enticing you with some arbitrary "award", which consisted of some kind of gaudy badge. To be honest, most of the Flickr groups seemed completely useless, full of HDR junk and asinine motivational stuff. Though I'm sure it's…

I forgot about those gaudy animated badges. Social media does have tough challenges ahead, especially as bots/spam become more and more prevalent. I would love to work on a bot-prevention team somewhere, but my background isn't in ML.

I like the idea of building a reputation system that accepts bots as first class citizens instead of imagining them as an inherent problem. Anyone who meaningfully contributes is good even if they are a bot, and anyone who doesn’t gets left behind. (Easier said than done but the approach to the problem is what’s fundamentally different.)

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#98

Post by girvo »

onethumb wrote: post #45
audiometry wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don— I was a paying customer too. Then Flickr changed their login, forcing me to get a yahoo account, which I then lost over time. So for years now, my account, and all the photos of my 1-3yo kid are buried and locked behind the “you need (login) and pay premium access to see all your photos”. All because that stupid yahoo login integration. Unrecoverable.

I will move heaven and earth to solve this for you. We're moving off of Yahoo Auth as soon as we can, but can likely fix before that (which will take awhile). Raising this up the flag pole.

I’m the same. Worst part is, I’m pretty sure I know the account. But eh aside from getting access to that account, I have all those photos, so less stress there :)

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#99

Post by mc32 »

lobster_johnson wrote: post #91
et-al wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Don, Since you're here, may I voice a thing I really enjoyed about Flickr? Community and actual human communication. Perhaps in the mobile era this isn't possible anymore since everyone is attention starved and tiny screens and keyboards aren't conducive to longform communication, but this was Flickr's strength. You'd find a group where your photos were relevant and start conversations with strangers halfway aroun…

Back in 2006 or so when I last used Flickr, one of my biggest problems was spam and noise. One of the biggest annoyances was the constant comments from "award groups" that wanted you to join them, enticing you with some arbitrary "award", which consisted of some kind of gaudy badge. To be honest, most of the Flickr groups seemed completely useless, full of HDR junk and asinine motivational stuff. Though I'm sure it's…

There are good dedicated groups with good curation. It takes a bit of lurking to find them. There are really good groups dedicated to specific genders of photography like Film only, or Documentary or Street Photography.

The good ones kept those gaudy things at arm's length. Some of these groups have a bit if an attitude at first, but as they get to know you and your dedication, they will warm up to you.

Re: Smugmug Acquires Flickr

#100

Post by chiefalchemist »

onethumb wrote: post #34
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #16

This is exciting! I've long believed that Flickr should have doubled down on their existing users instead of trying to become another Instagram. Over on the USA Today article[0], there's this line: A longtime fan of Flickr, MacAskill says before making any decisions, he plans to collect feedback from employees and users. Hey Don - I used to pay money for Flickr, and I'm happy to start paying again if there is evidenc…

Don here, thanks so much for the vote of confidence. Big job ahead of us, but the community is the reason we did this. We want to invest, innovate and grow there. We'll be working hard. But first I have a lot of learning to do. Stay tuned.

Greetings Don. Always had a place in my heart for Flickr. Would love to see if thrive again. My gut sez there's a pretty big space between (the disposalness of) Instagram and the (heavy handiness of) 500px.

Maybe you agree. I guess we'll find out. I wish y'all the best. Fun and competition is a positive for all.

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