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Giving up on Google

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Re: Giving up on Google

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. I just searched for it. 46,100 hits. Not a UITableView within sight. Are you sure you didn't mistype? If I type in USTableView, it shows me two UITableView hits at the top, before the exact matches.

It was a specific phrase where it did this, because I tried again with just NSTableView and it was cool. I wish I could remember what was giving me trouble so I could search for it again.

Check your search history: http://www.google.com/history/

Re: Giving up on Google

#42
post #17

This article inspired me to install the Duck Duck Go Search plugin ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/161971/ ); I'm going to give it a week.

I would suggest more than that. After 1 week, I hadn't really seen what DDG added in value. My experience says, give it 2-4 weeks.

Re: Giving up on Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a specific phrase where it did this, because I tried again with just NSTableView and it was cool. I wish I could remember what was giving me trouble so I could search for it again.

Check your search history: http://www.google.com/history/

Search history is one of Google's creepier features – I disabled it awhile ago.

Not that I suspect it helps anything, but at least if someone finds my computer or something, that data isn't two clicks away.

Re: Giving up on Google

#44
post #38

Giving up on a blog that can't display the article in full without JavaScript. Progressive enhancement folks! (Web apps get a pass, but if your site only needs to display text it should not require JS.)

Thanks for the heads-up. Actually it is designed to gracefully fall back without JavaScript, but there appears to be a display bug I wasn't aware of.

I'll fix it soon but right now I have a server down.

(BTW, do you have any idea how much extra time you noscript guys add to web development efforts? Ugg.)

edit: fixed.

Re: Giving up on Google

#45

Wow, that blog design is beautiful. Anyways, I'd love to switch to DDG, but too often it tells me "No more results. Try Google.", and almost every time a subsequent search on Google provides me with many more (relevant) links for the same query. If DDG could be configured to basically be a proxy and fetch all of its results from Google, that'd be cool.

The text gets chopped for Chrome/OSX.

Re: Giving up on Google

#46

I am often annoyed by Google. Its word clustering is too clever by half. At one point I was debugging, I think, an NSTableView object. Google says "eh, fuck it, iPhone dev is much more popular, here's UITableView. Have fun with that." And so then I have to wrap NSTableView in quotes to force Google to use my input as I've provided it. I wish I could turn this kind of stuff off.

I can't think of any good examples now, but in some IDEs in the 80s and 90s they had an "expert mode" you could toggle on and off to extend the number of menu options and the like. A similar setting on Google would be great.

I know a little of Google's syntax like the + and " workarounds, but having a literal search as default would be worthwhile for many users. I recall that I switched to Altavista back in the mid 90s because it offered a feature like that.

Re: Giving up on Google

#48

I am often annoyed by Google. Its word clustering is too clever by half. At one point I was debugging, I think, an NSTableView object. Google says "eh, fuck it, iPhone dev is much more popular, here's UITableView. Have fun with that." And so then I have to wrap NSTableView in quotes to force Google to use my input as I've provided it. I wish I could turn this kind of stuff off.

I can't think of any good examples now, but in some IDEs in the 80s and 90s they had an "expert mode" you could toggle on and off to extend the number of menu options and the like. A similar setting on Google would be great. I know a little of Google's syntax like the + and " workarounds, but having a literal search as default would be worthwhile for many users. I recall that I switched to Altavista back in the mid 9…

From your mouth to Marissa Meyer's ears.

My ultimate Google fantasy: An account setting called "2008 mode."

No instant search.

No fancy, annoying endless scroll Google image search.

No word clustering/auto-substitution.

It would be awesome.

Re: Giving up on Google

#49
I don't understand the Gmail complaint at all. Sure it has its weaknesses such as the policy to not spend the resources stemming emails causing search to suck, but Gmail pretty much defined the usable webmail interface for power users.

The interface on my webmail software feels like a mail client should -- easy navigation, threaded conversations, multiple window panes, and it's fast. Google on the other hand took years before they could be bothered to add buttons to Gmail, and even now Gmail's interface is an ugly monument to 90's era design principles.

Uh, in 2004 when Gmail launched it was one of the first widespread AJAX apps. It made Hotmail / Yahoo feel like molasses, gave you 200x storage, and added the idea of labels instead of folders. They obsessed tremendously over performance to make it usable by people who hitherto had only been able to tolerate desktop mail clients.

Now I realize a lot of things change in 6 years, but hell, Dreamhost is still using SquirrelMail. The author just throws it out there like amazing webmail is a foregone conclusion, yet I've not seen any webmail that beats Gmail even by a little bit. Can someone enlighten me?

Re: Giving up on Google

#50
post #38

Giving up on a blog that can't display the article in full without JavaScript. Progressive enhancement folks! (Web apps get a pass, but if your site only needs to display text it should not require JS.)

Thanks for the heads-up. Actually it is designed to gracefully fall back without JavaScript, but there appears to be a display bug I wasn't aware of. I'll fix it soon but right now I have a server down. (BTW, do you have any idea how much extra time you noscript guys add to web development efforts? Ugg.) edit: fixed.

  > (BTW, do you have any idea how much extra time you
  > noscript guys add to web development efforts? Ugg.)
I can't quite form words around the feeling, but this feels like a very backwards statement to me.
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