Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to Allo, double down on RCS

Post by wetpaws » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 7:21 PM UTC

seabrookmx wrote: post #60

dandare wrote: post #21

I don't see a single reason to invest myself into Google messaging product once again. I was adamant gtalk/hangout user but you can only fuck me over so many times.

To be fair, the migration from Talk to Hangouts was pretty smooth, and Hangouts still works. Google gave up pushing Hangouts for consumers but I don't think it's going anywhere, as it's a big part of G-suite for corporate customers. Though with Slack and Discord I'm sure it's usage isn't as strong as it once was.

Post by rkuykendall-com » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 7:28 PM UTC

what_ever wrote: post #234

vijaybritto wrote: post #212

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Using a telephone number is impractical? That's our identity in the third world. I think they are focused on the developing world in this.

Some of the people here are in a bubble. There are billions of people in the 3rd world countries who are now coming online and they will never have a GMail account in their life. But they will have a Facebook account and they will have Whatsapp. So many of my relatives started using internet after Jio made it so cheap and none of them use Hangouts, Allo, GMail to communicate. But everyone is on Whatsapp and everyone…

Post by seba_dos1 » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 7:47 PM UTC

jayd16 wrote: post #177

moksha256 wrote: post #134

Didn't Google have messaging figured out with Google Talk? Everyone was on Gmail all day (as many still are) and people actually used it. Then they let it wither, came out with Hangouts, and it's been a downhill train wreck from there. Google Talk had the potential of being one of the biggest messengers in the world...they own Gmail and Android (!!!!!). Are you kidding me? There's really no good reason for them NOT t…

It's a pretty simple explanation. Google talk was XMPP which is just not a good mobile protocol.

Post by stephenr » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 7:57 PM UTC

tallanvor wrote: post #95

stephenr wrote: post #89

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> With SMS I know that I can send a text to anyone. Unless their phone is turned off, or in a different room, or they’re in a different country, or they’re outside cell coverage and have wifi only. I’m not arguing googles shit is good, but sms is a fucking woeful alternative. I send most “messages” from my laptop, and about 1/3 are “international”.

I suppose if their phone is turned off outside cell coverage long enough then yes, they won't get it, but the rest of it isn't really an issue I've had to deal with. And with carriers determining RCS functionality, I'm not sure I see how having your laptop but not your phone is likely to make a real difference.

Post by reiichiroh » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 7:58 PM UTC

joecool1029 wrote: post #221

djrogers wrote: post #207

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>Most places have shut down their 2G. Citation? I haven't seen this to be the case in California - at least on Verizon.

Only AT&T shut down 2G. T-Mobile reiterated recently that their 2G network will probably be shut down after their 3G one, since it hardly uses any spectrum.