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> Simplify where possible > eliminate inconsistencies and surprising behavior Oh dear god please.
This major breaking change to the language reminds me a lot of the Py2-Py3 fiasco. I wonder how Scala's community will handle the transition given the previous issues with cross compilation in the 2.x series. Given the multitude of language alternatives in a similar space to Scala, I'm worried. Fingers crossed they can work through this.
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It's currently about as fast as Scala 2.12, which means it compiles at roughly 3000 lines/sec. However, it supports more aggressive incremental compilation than Scala 2 so at least in my projects, which are typically 50K to 100K lines, most compiles are under a second, and I rarely see compile times over 5 seconds. There's ongoing performance work to make both Scala 2 and Scala 3 faster than they are now. A lot of wh…
> However, it supports more aggressive incremental compilation than Scala 2 I'm not sure what you mean here... but Scala 2 and Dotty have the same incremental compiler, and their independent bridges feature overall the same quality (which is high and heavily battle tested, for those interested).
> Simplify where possible > eliminate inconsistencies and surprising behavior Oh dear god please.
> Simplify where possible > eliminate inconsistencies and surprising behavior Oh dear god please.
I know on HN people like Scala but it's by far one of the language I hated the most when I worked with it. It's the complete opposite of Go, every time the Go team said no to a random feature, the Scala team said yes to that random feature. Scala feels to me like a kind of functional Perl.
Its fascinating process where if you're a hot new language you attract a lot of people that like shiny new things. When the next hot new language comes along and those people move on - have you attracted enough of the secondary wave to keep alive? Its going to be interesting to watch Scala adoption in the next few years.
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F# only has access to a subset of .NET deployment scenarios, where Scala can be used pretty much everywhere there is a JVM. So most companies actually are more keen to bet on Scala than F#. OCaml/Reason world lacks the wealth of Java libraries, which are an import away on Scala. Regarding Kotlin, so far its killer use case is targeting Android, where one is stuck with an ageing Java subset. Outside of Android, it rem…
F# is now supported within the .NET core world so it opens up the deployment scenarios beyond anywhere traditional .NET would live.
In fact, Microsoft has to advocate library writers to actually care about .NET Core and .NET Standard.
https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Visual-Studio-Toolbox/NET-St...
Just curious, what companies (or kinds of companies) are betting on Scala nowadays? It seems that the people wanting "better Java" all decided they like Kotlin, and the functional programming people now gravitate more towards either F# (for .NET ecosystem) or OCaml/Reason (for the more unixy world). And the academic/research/learning crowd seems to like Haskell more. Who's still in Scala boat? Are Google or Fb or oth…
Twitter created a website "Scala School" awhile ago, so I'm guessing they didn't jump ship yet (but could be wrong). https://twitter.github.io/scala_school/
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It's currently about as fast as Scala 2.12, which means it compiles at roughly 3000 lines/sec. However, it supports more aggressive incremental compilation than Scala 2 so at least in my projects, which are typically 50K to 100K lines, most compiles are under a second, and I rarely see compile times over 5 seconds. There's ongoing performance work to make both Scala 2 and Scala 3 faster than they are now. A lot of wh…
> However, it supports more aggressive incremental compilation than Scala 2 I'm not sure what you mean here... but Scala 2 and Dotty have the same incremental compiler, and their independent bridges feature overall the same quality (which is high and heavily battle tested, for those interested).