This happens in the USA too, except at college level. A nearby shooting range has had a few suicides by Asian students at the end of the spring semester.
In India, high-pressure exams are creating a student suicide crisis
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Re: In India, high-pressure exams are creating a student suicide crisis
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>It slightly portrays that Indian engineering education landscape starts and ends in IITs only. Well, the problem is people treat degrees from these institutions as lifelong aristocratic privilege. Once you start going in that direction, its now in your interest to keep the myths alive about your alma mater. How else are you going to earn higher than everybody else? You have to convince the society nobody can ever b…
I agree. Many Indian jobs advertisement specially mention student from IIT only. there is job site that targets only IITians. So the pedigree obviously is valuable.
Can you point to any job description that says so? I have never seen any job description that mentions only IIT students can apply for the job. I have seen some mediocre companies mentioning open to only IITs, NITs, and IIITs though.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Obviously you need more than safer fans, but don't knock it. Reducing access to means and methods is the most important thing you can do for suicide prevention. People talk about method substitution, but that doesn't always happen.
The root of the issue is people choosing they want to die, not that people are able to die
Yes, but sometimes it's best to take multiple simultaneous approaches when solving a problem, and sometimes the root of a problem is hard enough to solve that other approaches end up being more effective, at least in the short term. Means restriction is well-studied and does reduce suicide rates.
There was a point in my life where I chose to die, and the reason I'm alive right now is because I didn't have immediate access to lethal means. Every extra minute that it takes to figure out how to kill yourself is another minute of opportunity to change your mind, and that's what saved me. We absolutely should be focusing on mental health, but means restriction (particularly gun control in the US) is also an important thing for people to understand and consider.
Re: In India, high-pressure exams are creating a student suicide crisis
#44Extreme economic incentives perpetuate odd socio-economic behaviour. Look at the Japanese greying population renting everything from fake family to a complete fake wedding with the whole 9 yards[1](Yes Virginia there is a Netflix documentary on it as well[2]).
But enough about Japan. The dangers to India are very real.
- 1 million people entering the workforce every month due to demographics.
- 50% population engaged in agriculture providing 14% of the GDP.
- Difficult labor laws, swamped Judicial system makes for only technology intensive industries that employ fewer people.
It is a unique experiment in the history of Democracies where ~600 Million people need to be lifted out of poverty and into sustainable jobs. This has not been done before.
[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2017/11/paying-fo... [2] https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B06Y1JVLD4
Re: In India, high-pressure exams are creating a student suicide crisis
#45All striving to conform, what a waste of minds. Poor people, they should rebel.
As an Indian who's been through this (and luckily got out) - for every one person who rebels, you'll have nine others who'll be lining up to take that person's place.
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#46How is death less high pressure that an exam so as to seem more enticing an option?
if you are dead, you don't have to deal with failure. For young kids who are easily impressionable - failure not being an option is forced into kids since kindergarten.
This is the very obvious result.
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#47Notice how large percentage of the article was about a stupid fan, whose main feature is falling off the ceiling, rather than about the actual topic you clicked on the article for.
The most important suicide prevention measure is to reduce access to means and methods. If people in India are hanging themselves from ceiling fans a safer fan would be an important suicide prevention measure. Why is it "stupid"?
I'd say the most important measure would be to fix the root cause.
If kids don't have access to fans, they'll find something else.
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#48"Large group of young students in India, pursuing a future under impossible circumstances, collapsing under the immense pressure and leading some of them to commit suicide." Well, that's terrible. Surely we should discuss why they even get to this point, and how this could be prevented? "Most suicides happen by hanging from ceiling fans, so let's make anti-suicide ceiling fans." Nailed it.
While I agree that simply focusing on the method used is missing the bigger picture, it can have benefits. In England & Wales, changing domestic gas formulation dropped the overall suicide rate [1], so there is a precedent for positive effects from removing easy access. While this should certainly not be the only measure, it can be accomplished quite a bit more quickly and easily than changing both the university entrance process as well as the parenting culture. But I would consider it at-best to be a stopgap measure.
[1] https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/449144?jou...
Re: In India, high-pressure exams are creating a student suicide crisis
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
So to admit my daughter to pre kindergarten, the school expects her to know the alphabet already. Talk about pressure.
Well, some schools even expect the parents to be well educated.
That's not unreasonable if you want to select for high performing children. The correlation is very clear.
Re: In India, high-pressure exams are creating a student suicide crisis
#50"Large group of young students in India, pursuing a future under impossible circumstances, collapsing under the immense pressure and leading some of them to commit suicide." Well, that's terrible. Surely we should discuss why they even get to this point, and how this could be prevented? "Most suicides happen by hanging from ceiling fans, so let's make anti-suicide ceiling fans." Nailed it.
So to admit my daughter to pre kindergarten, the school expects her to know the alphabet already. Talk about pressure.
Is that hard to teach..I mean..its the alphabet..Excuse my possibly ignorant questioning.