Since when has apple done stuff that "users want"? Which user wanted the headphone jack to be removed? Which user wanted NFC to be disabled?
Tim Cook on merging macOS and iOS: “I don’t think that’s what users want”
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Re: Tim Cook on merging macOS and iOS: “I don’t think that’s what users want”
#12Devs and other creators want workstation grade productivity within a mobile form factor, solving the problem when switching between both worlds for mobility. Some devs who value mobility and change their location often, don't even want to get used to working on a big screen. Current phones, while providing enough horsepower for development, are handicapped by they screen real estate, something AR could fundamentally…
I'd like to see some AR screens, but for me they would have to have an insane resolution (way beyond 8k, so that the virtual screen is "retina") and be able to create completely opaque surfaces.
There are lot of transparent screens in science fiction but those seem useless. Companies have not invested a ton of time and money into anti-glare screen for nothing.
Re: Tim Cook on merging macOS and iOS: “I don’t think that’s what users want”
#13I was surprised when this story was published in my local newspaper and picked up internationally as Apple have been firm in their product segregation that they have no public plans to (a) release an iPhone desktop dock (c.f. Samsung DeX) (b) merge iOS and macOS into one toolkit (UWP/KDE Plasma) (c) merge Macbook and iPad (Chrome OS tablet) (Disclaimer: not being a current Apple customer, I'm sure Cook doesn't partic…
I think that the a) and c) are kind of at odds. If one has everything in the cloud then they do not really need docking. Docking also seems to be quite niche as people prefer laptops when they need to move a lot. As a heavy mac, iPhone and iPad user I really hope they will not merge the UI toolkits though. It would be nice if they merged parts of their APIs and modernized the mac API but for me mouse+keyboard and touch are too different to use similar kinds of controls.
Re: Tim Cook on merging macOS and iOS: “I don’t think that’s what users want”
#14This is great - if it hold out. > But that's not what it's about. You know it's about giving people things that they can then use to help them change the world or express their passion or express their creativity. Tim says this... and this is also what users have come to expect of apple; but their products as of late very much reflect a different set of priorities. The notion of iOS and MacOS merging didn't come out…
Does MacOS need to be #1 priority at Apple?
We've gone from OS-as-a-Platform to Browser-as-a-Platform (albeit on an OS). Operating systems have matured and have become relatively stable.
I feel MacOS has an edge in the market given the excellent trackpad (i.e. the #1 way to interact with a mac or any computer), iCloud, and honestly it just works.
Outside of Chrome, I use VS Code, VLC, FaceTime, iCloud, Dropbox, Zoom, and the Terminal.
Re: Tim Cook on merging macOS and iOS: “I don’t think that’s what users want”
#15This is great - if it hold out. > But that's not what it's about. You know it's about giving people things that they can then use to help them change the world or express their passion or express their creativity. Tim says this... and this is also what users have come to expect of apple; but their products as of late very much reflect a different set of priorities. The notion of iOS and MacOS merging didn't come out…
Does MacOS need to be #1 priority at Apple? We've gone from OS-as-a-Platform to Browser-as-a-Platform (albeit on an OS). Operating systems have matured and have become relatively stable. I feel MacOS has an edge in the market given the excellent trackpad (i.e. the #1 way to interact with a mac or any computer), iCloud, and honestly it just works. Outside of Chrome, I use VS Code, VLC, FaceTime, iCloud, Dropbox, Zoom,…
> Operating systems have matured and have become relatively stable.
The bugs in High Sierra (passwordless root [1], APFS data loss [2], the App Store preferences vulnerability [3]) seem to suggest otherwise. I have a MBP at work which is still on Sierra, maybe next summer I will be confident enough to upgrade...
[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/28/16711782/apple-macos-hig... [2]: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/19/apfs-bug-macos-data-los... [3]: https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/11/16877992/high-sierra-bug-...
Re: Tim Cook on merging macOS and iOS: “I don’t think that’s what users want”
#16I was surprised when this story was published in my local newspaper and picked up internationally as Apple have been firm in their product segregation that they have no public plans to (a) release an iPhone desktop dock (c.f. Samsung DeX) (b) merge iOS and macOS into one toolkit (UWP/KDE Plasma) (c) merge Macbook and iPad (Chrome OS tablet) (Disclaimer: not being a current Apple customer, I'm sure Cook doesn't partic…
I think that the a) and c) are kind of at odds. If one has everything in the cloud then they do not really need docking. Docking also seems to be quite niche as people prefer laptops when they need to move a lot. As a heavy mac, iPhone and iPad user I really hope they will not merge the UI toolkits though. It would be nice if they merged parts of their APIs and modernized the mac API but for me mouse+keyboard and tou…
(a) i'm thinking home usage. An 8 core machine with 6GB RAM is plenty - plug in a keyboard, mouse and screen, who needs a mac mini? OTG and/or a hard disk attached to my wifi router is all the local storage I'd need, let alone the cloud.
(c) If Google pulls off seamless integration of Android apps on a Chrome OS tablet then the rumoured ARM Macbook may have users wondering why they can't run their favourite iOS apps too.
But that's just me, I guess, and my wants.
Re: Tim Cook on merging macOS and iOS: “I don’t think that’s what users want”
#17This is great - if it hold out. > But that's not what it's about. You know it's about giving people things that they can then use to help them change the world or express their passion or express their creativity. Tim says this... and this is also what users have come to expect of apple; but their products as of late very much reflect a different set of priorities. The notion of iOS and MacOS merging didn't come out…
Does MacOS need to be #1 priority at Apple? We've gone from OS-as-a-Platform to Browser-as-a-Platform (albeit on an OS). Operating systems have matured and have become relatively stable. I feel MacOS has an edge in the market given the excellent trackpad (i.e. the #1 way to interact with a mac or any computer), iCloud, and honestly it just works. Outside of Chrome, I use VS Code, VLC, FaceTime, iCloud, Dropbox, Zoom,…
I've been using a mac since 2002 and for many years everything got better with every version of OS X. But recent years I feel the OS id getting worse for me mostly because they take away control and make stuff more suitable for non-power users.
Some examples of what I mean: - I am not allowed to remove iTunes. This is BS and the kind of stuff we used to chastise Microsoft over. - Gatekeeper. I have to manually switch it to the mode where I get a dialogue that allows me to run non-app store applications. And then changes bakc with random updates it seems. - The plethora of deamons/services I don't want but cannot reliably disable or uninstall. I mean stuff like gamed, photosd, coreduetd, etc etc.
I just want control over what my computer is doing and has installed. Thats all.
Re: Tim Cook on merging macOS and iOS: “I don’t think that’s what users want”
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does MacOS need to be #1 priority at Apple? We've gone from OS-as-a-Platform to Browser-as-a-Platform (albeit on an OS). Operating systems have matured and have become relatively stable. I feel MacOS has an edge in the market given the excellent trackpad (i.e. the #1 way to interact with a mac or any computer), iCloud, and honestly it just works. Outside of Chrome, I use VS Code, VLC, FaceTime, iCloud, Dropbox, Zoom,…
I've been using a mac since 2002 and for many years everything got better with every version of OS X. But recent years I feel the OS id getting worse for me mostly because they take away control and make stuff more suitable for non-power users. Some examples of what I mean: - I am not allowed to remove iTunes. This is BS and the kind of stuff we used to chastise Microsoft over. - Gatekeeper. I have to manually switch…
Valid points around control but I feel like they are focused around design philosophy. Not necessarily related to whether or not MacOS should be #1 priority at Apple.
I feel like Apple have been making conscious decisions to make iPhones, iPads and Macs (to a lesser extent) more 'user-friendly' and utility like.
If I wanted an "old school" OS experience where I can control everything, I would pick Linux (i.e. Arch Linux) or BSD.
Re: Tim Cook on merging macOS and iOS: “I don’t think that’s what users want”
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does MacOS need to be #1 priority at Apple? We've gone from OS-as-a-Platform to Browser-as-a-Platform (albeit on an OS). Operating systems have matured and have become relatively stable. I feel MacOS has an edge in the market given the excellent trackpad (i.e. the #1 way to interact with a mac or any computer), iCloud, and honestly it just works. Outside of Chrome, I use VS Code, VLC, FaceTime, iCloud, Dropbox, Zoom,…
> Operating systems have matured and have become relatively stable. The bugs in High Sierra (passwordless root [1], APFS data loss [2], the App Store preferences vulnerability [3]) seem to suggest otherwise. I have a MBP at work which is still on Sierra, maybe next summer I will be confident enough to upgrade... [1]: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/28/16711782/apple-macos-hig... [2]: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/0…
Yes these are serious bugs and it's important for Apple to prioritize security. Apple could be doing a better job here.
My point was that many users have gone from running apps on OS's to browsers. The focus has shifted from producing the best-in-class OS to creating an OS which can run a best-in-class browser.
With this in mind, does MacOS need to be #1 priority at Apple? Security still needs to be a priority across all product lines
Re: Tim Cook on merging macOS and iOS: “I don’t think that’s what users want”
#20Not sure Apple has the software engineering talent-time for that. Even Microsoft still struggles with unification.