Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018 • Hacker News Board

Re: Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018

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Post by ucontrol » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 9:05 AM UTC

joosters wrote: post #26

icarus8989 wrote: post #11

My Favorite Para was: "Nationality is a fading illusion, nobody cares where they were born unless they have nothing else to cling to. We are citizens of the globe. Home is basically where a good bed, a supportive environment and fast Internet is. The former you can get from IKEA pretty much anywhere. For the latter, we'll just travel and spend most of our time where things are easier, cooler and better"

OP has clearly not noticed much of the politics and election results around Europe...

OP seems to be a young European urbanite, and given the average age of the active European voter base (pretty old), I wouldn't say that recent political/electoral trends are demonstrative of the younger generations' (read: the future of Europe) values and beliefs.

Re: Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018

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Post by baxtr » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 9:09 AM UTC

A bit off-topic: I’ve visited HK once and it was really a great experience. I’d love to go back. Also, I accidentally find a great tailor (“Lapel”) that produced perfect shirts within 24h. Has anybody an idea how I could source those shirts from Europe? They’ve been very unresponsive with email and phone, it seems all so complex. Are there people who run back and forth Europe and are willing to do provide some sort of errand service?

Re: Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018

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Post by scandox » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 9:15 AM UTC

icarus8989 wrote: post #11

My Favorite Para was: "Nationality is a fading illusion, nobody cares where they were born unless they have nothing else to cling to. We are citizens of the globe. Home is basically where a good bed, a supportive environment and fast Internet is. The former you can get from IKEA pretty much anywhere. For the latter, we'll just travel and spend most of our time where things are easier, cooler and better"

Serious culture shock doesn't happen fast, it happens slowly. Often the person experiencing it doesn't understand what is happening - even for years. As an Irish-Israeli-Yemeni-UK-educated-Jewish-Catholic I am fairly much a citizen of the world...but Nationality and Home are radically different things. Years of digital nomadism sounds attractive on one level but will likely leave the OP with a profound feeling of something dark which they may never be able to name...

Re: Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018

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Post by machinesmachine » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 9:23 AM UTC

I think author has an incredibly clear style of describing things and I enjoyed reading this a lot. It's also worth noticing that he stated from the beginning that he's no expert about Asia and is simply passing on his impressions.

Re: Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018

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Post by philliphaydon » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 9:26 AM UTC

shellox009 wrote: post #18

I lived in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, New Zealand, and Australia. I think Hong Kong's tech scene is mostly about blockchain/bitcoin now. Most of the tech jobs I found here are in finance. Taiwan has not a very good tech scene, but is an amazing place to live. Singapore has a lot of startup hype and some good startup companies. It feels more diverse than Hong Kong and Taiwan for sure. Melbourne, AU has a good start…

What's your favourite place out of those you've lived in? Where do you live now?

Re: Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018

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Post by infinity0 » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 9:28 AM UTC

scandox wrote: post #33

icarus8989 wrote: post #11

My Favorite Para was: "Nationality is a fading illusion, nobody cares where they were born unless they have nothing else to cling to. We are citizens of the globe. Home is basically where a good bed, a supportive environment and fast Internet is. The former you can get from IKEA pretty much anywhere. For the latter, we'll just travel and spend most of our time where things are easier, cooler and better"

Serious culture shock doesn't happen fast, it happens slowly. Often the person experiencing it doesn't understand what is happening - even for years. As an Irish-Israeli-Yemeni-UK-educated-Jewish-Catholic I am fairly much a citizen of the world...but Nationality and Home are radically different things. Years of digital nomadism sounds attractive on one level but will likely leave the OP with a profound feeling of som…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH4wIeF0W4I

Re: Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018

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Post by ajeet_dhaliwal » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 9:29 AM UTC

If you don't have time scroll to near the end of the article to the section called 'What this trip meant'. That is an incredibly succinct summary of my own feelings on this matter written better than I ever could.

Re: Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018

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Post by ciguy » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 9:43 AM UTC

I've lived in Hong Kong and Tokyo as well Bangkok and Manila. Many of these observations totally miss the mark, which isn't unexpected from someone just visiting as a tourist.

Blockchain and Bitcoin are huge in HK tech circles right now, in fact I'd say it's way too huge. Same for all of Asia really, but the main Crypto operations are all HK or Singapore based. I know quite a few people in Asia caught up in the Crypto hype to the point that it feels like a cult.

If OP spent a bit more time in Asia he might start to see the dark sides to this "progress" he lauds and realize it comes at a human cost. Many in Asia are cast aside or left behind as a result of constant advancement. Europe tends to strike a better balance between change/progress and mitigating the human toll IMO.

Re: Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018

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Post by scruffyherder » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 9:49 AM UTC

Come to Asia for Tokyo, but live in Hong Kong...

To be fair I live in Hong Kong, and it's chaotic, sure when you first come here, but after a few months you adjust to it's normalcy... And it's really no different from New York, Toronto, London. I guess it's something about people more so than anything else.

Re: Tokyo and Hong Kong in 2018

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Post by oblio » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 9:52 AM UTC

> Nationality is a fading illusion, nobody cares where they were born unless they have nothing else to cling to. We are citizens of the globe. Home is basically where a good bed, a supportive environment and fast Internet is. The former you can get from IKEA pretty much anywhere. For the latter, we'll just travel and spend most of our time where things are easier, cooler and better.

What a nice, sheltered life :)