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A.I. Researchers Are Making More Than $1M, Even at a Nonprofit

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But, grasshopper, you have not passed the third test. Where is your question?

Haha. I guess if I had to ask any question about python, it would be, "why on earth did they do that ridiculous unicode thing in version 3?" Most builtins should use bytes, and the few that can't should just use bytes annotated with an encoding.

Most builtins can't use bytes instead of string safely for all data, and the problem is that it propagates - in Python 2 you often have the case that library A uses library B that uses a builtin that treats a piece of text like a string of bytes, and so you can't use library A because it will give you broken results in certain conditions. We've spent time updating some third party open source libraries to support python 3, and that was well worth the time to avoid the waste of programmer time that'd come from working in python 2 due to lack of sane handling of unicode strings; and if you're working with user-facing software (as opposed to, say, scripts for system administration or physics calculations), pretty much every string you encounter nowadays is unicode string. Names of people, names of files, contents of files, results of http requests, results of database requests - all of those can be treated as streams of bytes only if you treat them as a single atomic token and don't look inside that stream in any way whatsoever. As soon as you make the first index operation, substring or split, you can't treat them as bytes anymore safely.

However, you can simply think of it as syntactic sugar that manages the encoding annotations in the default case. Where is it creating problems for you? Is it some performance hit or something else?

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More importantly, why did I bother to finish grad school?

If you drop out of grad school is there a way to prove you were ever actually even in grad school? Or can anyone say they were in grad school but just didn’t finish?

Huh? Just get your transcripts.

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Well... I’m going to be the one to say it. Ian Goodfellow is underpaid at 800K.

Genuinely curious: How do you come to that conclusion? What is the output he produced at OpenAI and how do you measure its value?

GANs (which he invented) are a game changer, and have enabled things to be built which I thought were 20 years away.

For example, the life-like faces NVidia research created in Progressive Growing of GANs for Improved Quality, Stability, and Variation[1] are just an incredible achievement (it's worth looking at the pics in that paper if you haven't seen them).

Approaches like that have real-life impact in things like games, architecture, design, film, etc (and that is just the obvious implications for images). GANs of course can be used outside images and they have just as much potential there.

Anywhere an auto-encoder is used now can probably be done better with a GAN.

[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.10196

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Not unusual for people at the top of their game. I just turned down a 2M a year offer, and I have a friend who is making 2.9M USD. It's just a value proposition, he makes the company a lot more than 2.9 million a year, and when you negotiate you negotiate on value (and not on time) then you can justify these salaries.

Genuinely curious - what do you do?

He puts smart assets on a blockchain and controls them with AI

https://hydrachain.io/

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#145

Genuine questions for those participating in this market (on either side): -How is the performance of $1M AI researchers measured? Like, at their six month review, what do you look at to tell if your money is being well spent? -How do you tell if it makes more sense to hire 1 famous AI researcher vs 10 additional junior data scientists? What sort of products are suited to different hiring strategies? -How much of $1M…

It seems more akin to building a labor war chest, i.e. filling your company with the best AI talent so that your competition can not hire them. You might not have an exact plan for what to do now, but there's no reason not to build up a talented team of engineers in a hot field when you've got effectively unlimited money and resources.

There is no shortage of big problems for AI researchers to work on.

If I had the money I'd hire hundreds, and that's just on my subfield (A.I. for software development).

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Genuinely curious - what do you do?

He puts smart assets on a blockchain and controls them with AI https://hydrachain.io/

These RAMM sites seem a hotch-potch of vaguely related buzzwords, blurred images and unrelated company logos.

Did you see the laundry list of "Current Customer Use Cases" under https://ramm.science/x/signalbox/?

I respect fake-it-till-you-make to some degree, but I find too much "spinning" actually hurts the ML industry (though no doubt profitable for the spin artists). Communication style straight from the ICO world.

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So a tiny handful of top performers - plausibly few enough that you could fit them all on a schoolbus - in an ultra-hot technical field are raking in huge sums, for the moment. Unless you are a top professor at an R1 research university or have a PhD from an R1 university studying under the other top minds in the field or are otherwise in the most elite fraction of the profession, it doesn't sound like this is partic…

From what I've seen, away from the coasts between $70k - $100k. PhD adds about 25k-40k to the figure, depending on industry.

Yeah I make 100k and live in Los Angeles sometimes I can't eat food I work remote so my coworkers outside cifornia don't have it too bad. But despite 30 years of experience I'm hardly worth enough to this society to let me eat food or have a roof over my head. 100k is about average for LA but at one point I had a job that paid me only 45k with no benefits demanding I generate a sentiment analysis system I literally had to stop eating to make my rent on that low pay. But in LA engineers are treated like worse than dogs, we have no social currency and if you work for an LA company they expect 140 hours for 40 hours pay far below market average.

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Why did you drop out of grad school?

I think he said "$300k".

> I think she said "$300k".

I laughed at the joke and upvoted you.

And I frowned at the downvotes for the other comments. Friends, why do we turn into insecure conservative bullies when it comes to femininity? Why accept the implicit normalizing and othering of last century's favorite pronouns?

Let's subvert the status quo!

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