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MS Exchange “remote wipe” is a terrible, terrible bug

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Re: MS Exchange “remote wipe” is a terrible, terrible bug

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Post by omh »

Poiesis wrote: post #70

I had no idea there were so many people unfamiliar with secure networks. Anyone who is anywhere near U.S. govt classified networks knows that if they hook up their device up to one of them, they will be lucky to get their equipment sans storage media--and quite likely delivered with a pink slip. Corporations may not have national security in mind when they protect their data but to them their data is every bit as imp…

I believe that Google Apps now supports remote wipe (http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answ...), but you need to pay for a premier account. A better deal than Mobile Me, if that's all that you want.

Re: MS Exchange “remote wipe” is a terrible, terrible bug

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Post by omh »

I'm a sysadmin at a place that wants this sort of protection, and historically we've only used Blackberries. Now that lots of people have iPhones, I'm explaining the "remote wipe" situation pretty often.

The best compromise I have at the moment is an iPhone optimised web interface. This lets you get your emails on the device without (much) danger of them ending up saved there.

Re: MS Exchange “remote wipe” is a terrible, terrible bug

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Post by russss »

orangecat wrote: post #101
tptacek wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're hyperventilating. Nobody has ever suggested that the RIAA or EA be able to wipe your phone. But plenty of companies have a policy that says that if you want to sync your phone with their corporate mail system, they need to be able to nuke your phone from orbit if something goes wrong. When you find the example of the company that requires you to purchase a personal phone and sync it with their corporate mail s…

Nobody has ever suggested that the RIAA or EA be able to wipe your phone. Orrin Hatch: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/2999780.stm . but don't pretend there's no valid reason for it. If my house has been broken into before, there's a "valid reason" for me to install a tripwire that automatically fires a shotgun blast at the intruder. That won't go over well in court, and neither should this.

Let me know when there's actually been an instance of a third party being able to wipe my phone, and I'll consider it as a problem.

Re: MS Exchange “remote wipe” is a terrible, terrible bug

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Post by russss »

extension wrote: post #51
kogir wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't require employees to link their personal phones. It's their choice, and the activesync policy is part of the bargain. In fact, I'd personally recommend employees not link their phones. Work isn't so important it should be always on.

It's not part of the bargain if you don't tell them about it.

So, what you're complaining about is companies who don't tell users about their policies. Don't tar everyone with the same brush.

Remote wipe is there for a good (regulatory) reason.

Re: MS Exchange “remote wipe” is a terrible, terrible bug

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Post by extension »

russss wrote: post #114
extension wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not part of the bargain if you don't tell them about it.

So, what you're complaining about is companies who don't tell users about their policies. Don't tar everyone with the same brush. Remote wipe is there for a good (regulatory) reason.

No, I'm complaining about phone developers, which is why I said it's entirely their fault.

Re: MS Exchange “remote wipe” is a terrible, terrible bug

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Post by lovskogen »

eitally wrote: post #11

The problem is that right now there aren't granular enough controls of remote devices to allow people to adequately differentiate between approved ones and illicit ones. The fault lies on both the side of the client device software and the server side software. The same goes for Gmail (Google Apps Premium Edition only) and Android (or anything else using Google Sync). You can enable/disable IMAP & POP for the domain…

So even using a GMail account on my iPhone will allow someone (Google) to remote wipe?

Re: MS Exchange “remote wipe” is a terrible, terrible bug

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Post by jodrellblank »

achille wrote: post #95
jodrellblank wrote: post #65

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I parked my personal car in the company fleet car garage and they clamped it. I didn't understand what was happening and called the rescue company telling them it had broken down and wasted lots of time. This was so unfair I quit that day , causing a dramatic fuss pointing out exactly how much they'll suffer. That'll show them.

Imagine today one of your employees quits on the spot, tells you he's quitting because his car was clamped. You have no idea who manages the parking lot, but now you just lost a resource on your project. How did your manager end up reacting?

Not a true story, an attempt to frame the parent post I was replying to in a different light to show how much of a prima Donna overreaction it would be, and as you say, directed at the wrong people too.
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