I still think that's an awful name.
It's a protocol, not a product. Just make a new product that uses the protocol and there you go, a new name.
Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
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#92Facebook, but in javascript and giant Electron app with hundreds of dependencies, probably including stuff like is-number and is-odd
There is work underway to implement the protocol in Go, Rust, C and a bit of Haskell. Some of those are usable, but partially complete.
There is no reason for the protocol to be restricted to JS and Electron.
Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#93Would be great if they could set this up to work over your email account. Just add a rule to hide the data passing messages from your normal inbox activity.
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#94Scuttlebutt is a great idea and has some really smart people working on it ( like Andre and Dominic ) . With that being said, I don't think Scuttlebutt has any chance of succeeding. SB network has some fairly serious architectural issues which may or may not have solutions that are achievable with the current design. I ended up uninstalling.
toxic users is a definite thing, but I think scuttlebutt is the best alternative social network I've ever found. the development community & the rest of the community are largely awesome, and they actually have a ton of funding.
Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#95wtf were they thinking when they named it that? if any non joke product with "butt" in the name ever succeeds, I will eat my hat.
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Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#97Scuttlebutt is a great idea and has some really smart people working on it ( like Andre and Dominic ) . With that being said, I don't think Scuttlebutt has any chance of succeeding. SB network has some fairly serious architectural issues which may or may not have solutions that are achievable with the current design. I ended up uninstalling.
toxic users is a definite thing, but I think scuttlebutt is the best alternative social network I've ever found. the development community & the rest of the community are largely awesome, and they actually have a ton of funding.
Can you show us any links or documentation that Scuttlebutt is actually funded? Or as you put it, "a ton of funding".
I believe the actual number is 0. Would be pleased to hear otherwise.
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#98Okay Hackernews, I get it. Scuttlebutt isn't fully ready for everything yet. I wrote that article hoping that it would sparkle interest to both use it, plus make it happen.
This is not your usual startup launch, it's a community project by multiple open source hackers. If something is missing, you can make it happen. And there are so many ongoing developments right now (see list below), that it really doesn't make sense, at this point, to point out the current problems with the protocol. It's evolving fast, and can evolve even faster if you choose to make it your own and do something about it.
Here are a couple of things being developed:
- Mobile app for Android
- Better cryptographically-verified user invites
- P2P replication over WebRTC
- P2P replication over DHT (Kademlia)
- Better scalability (Epidemic broadcast trees)
- GitHub alternative
- "Out-of-order" replication (get messages from distant friends of your friends)
- Private groups
- Moderation tools (every person as a moderator)
- Socio-technical discussion around data accountability
- New RPC stack, rewrite
- Rust client
- Go implementation
- C implementation
- Groundwork for iOS support
- Multi-devices accounts
- Scuttlebutt on Firefox as an extension
- Overall improving onboarding and docs
- Replication over Bluetooth and Wi-Fi P2P
- Web viewer
- Scuttlebutt cloud (easy way of setting up servers)
- Websites on scuttlebutt
- etc
It's a moving target
Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#99"As soon as I put the card into my phone, Scuttlebutt automatically updates and syncs with the new posts that my friends or I make." Yeah... so I'm out. Where's that card going to fit into my iPhone?
That was just an example for how your data could be transferable for fully offline/airgap type uses. Its not the ordinary use case. The ordinary case is simply that your data resides on your device's storage.
https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/getting-started.html has links to more information on how it all works.
So far, I like the implementation (I've checked out the patchwork client). The issue for me is the ease of getting started, and the social graph issue. Social networks are only useful to me if my friends are on it. I'm not a twitter kind of guy, I'm a facebook kind of guy and I'm not sure what the solution is when everyone else is on facebook.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is no worse than Facebook though. With Facebook, your friend could steal all of the data you let them see. With Scuttlebutt, your friend could steal all of the data you let them see. Your friend can, but Facebook can scrutinize third-party apps. In a decentralized world, there's no one who has access to holistically examine automated access and detect shady activity. In a decentralized world, everything is ess…
Do apps really bring that much value to the social network experience? I know for myself I have not found a single Facebook app that brings any positive value to my life.
Services like Buffer.io or custom mobile/desktop clients that post on your behalf.
Basically only automation & power users.