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- Providing a "secure" system in nodejs (it does not matter how good your crypto code is I I can poison left-pad)
- Bad privacy behaviour: you can follow anybody, limited ability to have private/friend-only messages.
I think it's fascinating to see distributed social networks from a tech perspective. From what I've seen so far they exacerbate the problems that Facebook has been seeing so much backlash against. 1. The whole Cambridge Analytica issue was caused by APIs that are too open. For distributed systems there are more ways to exploit the APIs and gather data on users. 2. There is a clear issue with Facebook's accountability…
> The whole Cambridge Analytica issue was caused by APIs that are too open. For distributed systems there are more ways to exploit the APIs and gather data on users. Huh? Scuttlebutt is fully encrypted.. doesn't that make the API vastly more locked down than Facebook/etc? > There is a clear issue with Facebook's accountability in these areas. Distributed systems are typically open source, they run on multiple servers…
No, not at all! TOR is fully encrypted, but there are somewhat regular vulnerability reports about various parts of the stack. Including criticial vulnerabilities that can and have been exploited by nation states, for example.
> This is no worse than Facebook though
This is not at all clear to me. The attack surface for Scuttlebutt is much larger, and I trust Facebook's security team to audit and patch much more than I trust any random friend.
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> This is no worse than Facebook though. With Facebook, your friend could steal all of the data you let them see. With Scuttlebutt, your friend could steal all of the data you let them see. Your friend can, but Facebook can scrutinize third-party apps. In a decentralized world, there's no one who has access to holistically examine automated access and detect shady activity. In a decentralized world, everything is ess…
>Facebook can scrutinize third-party apps I can assure you that they don't. Anyone can have a third-party app that scavenges for private info. See: Cambridge Analytica. >there's no one who has access to holistically examine automated access and detect shady activity There is. It is you. You can shut off access your data any time you want to. Yes, if you give someone access to some data, that data could potentially be…
And, most importantly, the same is true for literally any platform.
One quick look at people taking screen shots of snapchat posts shows how deletion of data from a platform like FB or Snapchat is irrelevant - viewers of that data can always copy it.
If I may, a decentralized alternative to facebook would be community-based, allow people to do group chats, discover and post events, see attendees, meet each other, add each other to contacts, maybe even drive each other to the events, date, book group reservations at local businesses etc. Like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ1O_gmPneI Yes that’s my project. Would love to get feedback. (The things I mentioned…
You've missed the point and likely didn't do validation before building this (if you have).
I don't want 1,000 features from launch. Facebook didn't start out doing everything they do today, neither should you. Copying another service won't win you users because maybe users don't like that feature or how it works.
I want something that solves a problem without unnecessary doohickeys glued on to it.
So basically throw out everything you've suggested and start over. What does a social network mean in 2018? What pain point can you solve easily without a lot of work?
Don't spend more time on this than you need to, to get it in front of users who will tell you whether they will like it or not.
Anyone else not even use social networks anymore? Privacy or not, it's just garbage. Facebook, myspace, hello, whatever it's all the same crap with different CSS values. Do we even need social networks anymore?
Ironic words from a HN user with over 10k karma.
Not to be too meta, but the magazine this was published in is all about decentralization — I'm biased because I was involved in it, but if you're on this thread, you may want to check it out. Just launched: https://inthemesh.com
I downloaded Patchwork after someone talked about Scuttlebutt on HN, but when I tried to join any pub servers on their Github repo, none of them worked/connected. 30 minutes later, I uninstalled the thing. The idea was interesting, the UI was pleasant, and I could see this working at some tech conference where people connect with each-other and there's a common pub server so people can keep in touch afterward, but I…
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> The whole Cambridge Analytica issue was caused by APIs that are too open. For distributed systems there are more ways to exploit the APIs and gather data on users. Huh? Scuttlebutt is fully encrypted.. doesn't that make the API vastly more locked down than Facebook/etc? > There is a clear issue with Facebook's accountability in these areas. Distributed systems are typically open source, they run on multiple servers…
> This is no worse than Facebook though. With Facebook, your friend could steal all of the data you let them see. With Scuttlebutt, your friend could steal all of the data you let them see. Your friend can, but Facebook can scrutinize third-party apps. In a decentralized world, there's no one who has access to holistically examine automated access and detect shady activity. In a decentralized world, everything is ess…
I'll definitely look into contributing to Patchwork / Scuttlebutt. It's a great idea.
I think it's fascinating to see distributed social networks from a tech perspective. From what I've seen so far they exacerbate the problems that Facebook has been seeing so much backlash against. 1. The whole Cambridge Analytica issue was caused by APIs that are too open. For distributed systems there are more ways to exploit the APIs and gather data on users. 2. There is a clear issue with Facebook's accountability…
this entire complaint centers on the over-paternalistic notion that it is the service operators responsibility, rather than the users, to solve these problems, and that this is the desired state of affairs. 1) ... on the users that have chosen to enable this 2) ... for the users that use other peoples servers or servers from disreputable people, or share to those who do the same. 3) ... and? this presumes GDPR is a g…