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Re: Palantir is using War on Terror tools to track American citizens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they are orthogonal, then the conjunction is maximally informative...

Excellent point, now that you mention it, let's bring Trump and deep learning and 90's grunge into the discussion to form a maximal eigenbasis of discussion

Except most of those have no bearing on the conduct of Palantir, obviously, while the character of Thiel very much does.

Re: Palantir is using War on Terror tools to track American citizens

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I can't wait that EU citizen will hit them hard after May 25th.

I think palantir is CIA related... They probably are not going to worry about pesky international regulations

Sanctions? I am not sure the EU has enough clout to pull that off against something the likes of Palantir, I am sure that they would have to know it is there before they could ask for removal and FIOA or other legal devices are not going to be enough pry that open under this administration.

Re: Palantir is using War on Terror tools to track American citizens

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this is kind of scary and sad when powerful technology is being misused ...probably it is better to live in China ??? ..the government openly monitoring its citizen instead of spying on them

Definitely not, although that specific aspect - you _know_ you're being watched - makes life different, in some way, simpler. The rules are obvious, however, if they change, you might find yourself in a much worse situation, than in the West - for now.

Re: Palantir is using War on Terror tools to track American citizens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

the lack of democracy is not fascism. Anarchy is non-democratic but is pretty much the exact opposite of fascism. Thiel is a libertarian which is a political system that is neither inherently authoritarian nor democratic. [edit] clarify "inherently". Libertarianism can be a lot of things given its primary focus on economics and contract law.

Since Thiel is a capitalist and not in support of democracy, that means he is either a fascist or an extreme libertarian. Correct me if I'm wrong, but mainstream libertarianism is still democratic, they tend to be supporters of government in the style of the original US constitution. That would mean that if Thiel is non-authoritarian he would be an anarcho-capitalist, which I have a hard time believing he is.

I see no indication that he's a fascist unless we have vastly different understandings of the term. His comment about freedom and democracy being incompatible reads to me like the classic issue of the inherent conflict between the interests of the individual (freedom) and the interests of the collective (democracy). I can only speculate what his ideal political system would be, but calling an individualist a fascist just doesn't fundamentally make sense.

As an example of a non-democratic libertarian governance system, consider minarchism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism.

Re: Palantir is using War on Terror tools to track American citizens

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I used to be intelligence analyst that utilized Palantir on a daily basis. Ask me anything.

What kind of search filtering options are available for fishing expeditions?

You can search on or around nearly anything. That's one of their selling points to customers. The search function is multi-faceted, in that 1) it can index the data of any files you upload to Palantir (making everything text searchable), 2) Analysts can indicate specific attributes of an entity just by highlighting text in a file and marking it as a DOB or SSN or whatever. 3) The # of attributes is nearly limitless.

One of the primary screens in Palantir is a simple search page designed to work (and look) like Google, to search upon your entire database however you'd like. You can enhance the search function via the various attributes built into your installation or using advanced search tools. So I guess a "fishing expedition" in the traditional sense is very easy, as it's limited by the data you have, not the system itself.

Re: Palantir is using War on Terror tools to track American citizens

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I used to be intelligence analyst that utilized Palantir on a daily basis. Ask me anything.

Why did you quit?

I was frustrated with management in my department and ended up leaving for private sector.

Re: Palantir is using War on Terror tools to track American citizens

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think palantir is CIA related... They probably are not going to worry about pesky international regulations

That's what sanctions are for. But I highly doubt the EU will ever sanction the US as they are so dependant on them.

EU has more people and an equivalent sized economy.

The EU could stand up to the US if they felt it mattered.

Other than defence partnerships the EU is no more dependent on the US than the US is on the EU.

It's a two way street.

Unless you think the US would be happy to walk a way from the largest single market in the world (by GDP).

Re: Palantir is using War on Terror tools to track American citizens

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I'm much less concerned with Palantir being used internally by corporations to detect information leaks (although in practice this also means it will be used to quash whistleblowers), since that's at least a viable use for their technology. And it's good that Palantir is pivoting towards less invasive applications of their technology such as supply chain tracking. But the article touches on the biggest issue with Pal…

Thiel's genuine commitment to freedom is questionable. Also, he's a misogynist and jerk.

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