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The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Maybe someone can help: is it possible to build an SBC can boot Linux and has just a CPU, gig ethernet and gobs of RAM (at least 8gb)?

Don't need display port, GPU, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPIO pins, etc - just a CPU + lots of RAM + an ethernet port to get stuff in/out.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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I think the main issues with all of these rasbi alternatives is the software. As ... quirky ... as the rasbi is, the software support and optimisation is excellent. There are several speed comparisons on youtube where the rasbi beats a lot of the competition through sheer software optimisation. Honestly, without complete Upstream Kernel support and Open Sourcing of all necessary drivers, none of these Boards is reall…

What type of optimization you specifically refer to, and which benchmarks? Changes to the ARM CPUs across producers are minor, and the packages are also practically the same (the distributions are few).

> without complete Upstream Kernel support and Open Sourcing of all necessary drivers, none of these Boards is really useful.

it's not clear if you refer to SBCs in general, or Pi alternatives. nonetheless, essentially all of them have Linux support (at least, Armbian support); of course, having upstream support would make them more usable, but this is different from "useful".

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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post #74

Some more cheap SBCs from my bookmarks: - BananaPi (Allwinner, MediaTek): http://www.banana-pi.org/ - Le Potato (Amlogic) and Renegate (Rockchip): https://libre.computer/ - NanoPi (Samsung, Allwinner) : http://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/category&... - OLinuXino (open hardware, Allwinner A20, A64, etc, iMX, Ralink): https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/ - Odroid (Amlogic, Samsung): http://www.har…

Any of those x86? or is that mutually exclusive with "cheap"?

Depends on how cheap, the Minnowboard starts at $150

https://minnowboard.org

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

#134

Maybe someone can help: is it possible to build an SBC can boot Linux and has just a CPU, gig ethernet and gobs of RAM (at least 8gb)? Don't need display port, GPU, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPIO pins, etc - just a CPU + lots of RAM + an ethernet port to get stuff in/out.

Are you asking if it's possible, or asking for advice on a practical way to get it done?

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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What makes Allwinner based boards less likely to have mSD corruption over others?

The orangePi boards don't use microSD, they have built in eMMC storage. Far more reliable.

On my 5 years old cubieboard server I experienced NAND corruption more often then not when power outage occurs. Never had this kind of problems since I switched to SD cards.

In my experience SD cards are much slower but more reliable and easier to manage (backups and such).

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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post #74

Some more cheap SBCs from my bookmarks: - BananaPi (Allwinner, MediaTek): http://www.banana-pi.org/ - Le Potato (Amlogic) and Renegate (Rockchip): https://libre.computer/ - NanoPi (Samsung, Allwinner) : http://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/category&... - OLinuXino (open hardware, Allwinner A20, A64, etc, iMX, Ralink): https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/ - Odroid (Amlogic, Samsung): http://www.har…

Don’t forget the Espressobin: http://espressobin.net/

Have an EspressoBin sitting in my box of misc electronics parts. I wanted to run pfSense on it but last time I checked the Marvell CPU in it isn’t the same as the one in the Netgate SG-3100 that pfSense is exclusively compatible with ( https://store.netgate.com/Search.aspx?m ). Ended up getting a Ubiquiti UniFi switch + gateway to compliment the AC Pro AP that I already had and it works great — one management interface for all my home networking gear, VPN just works, wireless roaming + backups + 802.1x + rsyslog + emails of events + comprehensive monitoring and DPI make it a pretty nice home setup, especially with pi-hole running DNS.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Any of those x86? or is that mutually exclusive with "cheap"?

x86 is mutually exclusive with 'well designed'. Arm slightly less so, especially v8, although GPUs are all still 'secret sauce' (except newer nvidia I read). I'd really like to switch everything from x86 to arm sooner than later.

Would you elaborate on that? I've encountered a lot of ARM (and other archs) around, while, on the contrary, x86 seems to have a pretty decent base (excluding some horribile chinese-designed tablets).

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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> The RPi people quote this incessantly casually leaving out the fact that the BeagleBone already includes 4GB eMMC (a uSD card is at least $5) > Less RAM but FASTER RAM. RPi3 is DDR2 vs BeagleBone Black's DDR3. Most people buying don't notice such things. Also, the BBB is at-least $10 more expensive. > In addition, people just blithely skip past the whole closed nature of the Broadcom SoC. If you are serious about c…

> In fact, I'm currently supporting a product shipping with the RPi 3B in quantities large enough to qualify as "real quantities". How did you get pricing and volume from Broadcom? I'm genuinely interested as that stopped a project I was working on completely cold. We simply couldn't get them to care about 1K-2K parts.

We don't talk to Broadcom. As you note, they simply do not care if you're not very big fish. Fortunately, the Raspberry Pi Foundation is a big enough fish, and they do care, so we talk to them instead.
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