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Poll: Sequel or S-Q-L?

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Re: Poll: Sequel or S-Q-L?

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Like Leenoox vs. Lih-nux vs. Lie-nux, or v-i vs. "vigh" (rhymes with "high"), it's just preference. There is no clearly "correct" pronunciation. However, the first "a" in Nevada is like the "a" in "cab". That's not negotiable. ;-)

Unless you live in Nevada, IA, where the first "a" is pronounced like the letter A. :-)

Re: Poll: Sequel or S-Q-L?

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post #4

I pronounce it "sequel" because it was originally called "SEQUEL" SQL was developed at IBM by Donald D. Chamberlin and Raymond F. Boyce in the early 1970s. This version, initially called SEQUEL (Structured English Query Language), was designed to manipulate and retrieve data stored in IBM's original relational database management system, System R, which a group at IBM San Jose Research Laboratory had developed during…

Hm, thought IMS was the original IBM database. You'd be surprised how many legacy mainframes still run this system.

I spent a summer at the IBM San Jose Research Labratory and met some of the original database team. Bruce Lindsay was one of them and he is a fascinating guy with a genius brain.

Re: Poll: Sequel or S-Q-L?

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post #23

Like Leenoox vs. Lih-nux vs. Lie-nux, or v-i vs. "vigh" (rhymes with "high"), it's just preference. There is no clearly "correct" pronunciation. However, the first "a" in Nevada is like the "a" in "cab". That's not negotiable. ;-)

For Linux there most definitely is a correct way. http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/ There is an audio file on that page for you to feast your ears on. "Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux as Linux!" How do you think he says it?

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Re: Poll: Sequel or S-Q-L?

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post #39
post #23

Like Leenoox vs. Lih-nux vs. Lie-nux, or v-i vs. "vigh" (rhymes with "high"), it's just preference. There is no clearly "correct" pronunciation. However, the first "a" in Nevada is like the "a" in "cab". That's not negotiable. ;-)

Ummm. There absolutly is a correct pronunciation for Linux. Any person who's been involved with it for more than 10 years will remember the AIFF file floating around: "My name is Leenus Torvalds and I pronounce Leenux, Leenux" And while there's some slack on how to pronounce SQL (because of the origins (QUEL from Stonebraker and then the whole SEQUEL/SQL issue), it's understandable and acceptable that people could pr…

But I don't pronounce hardly any of the words {hello, this, is, Linus, Torvalds, and, I, pronounce, as} the same way he does, so why should I pronounce "Linux" the same way? (In other words, pronunciations are localized.)

Re: Poll: Sequel or S-Q-L?

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post #22
post #4

I pronounce it "sequel" because it was originally called "SEQUEL" SQL was developed at IBM by Donald D. Chamberlin and Raymond F. Boyce in the early 1970s. This version, initially called SEQUEL (Structured English Query Language), was designed to manipulate and retrieve data stored in IBM's original relational database management system, System R, which a group at IBM San Jose Research Laboratory had developed during…

Aside: Is it true that everyone thought the relational model was too slow to be practicable, until the Oracle team put a very fast implementation together (as Larry Ellison claimed in an interview)? EDIT according to the article, Oracle had the first commercial version of it, and so from their point of view at the time, I guess it was true. It doesn't say if IBM's release a few weeks later was of comparable speed.

There were academic systems that (a) didn't use the SQL langauge (b) came before Oracle, but wasn't commercialized as quickly as Oracle.

Oracle's biggest business decision was standardizing on IBM's standards, according to Ingres founder Mike Stonebraker. Hugh Darwen and Paul McJones have all had stories about this. One source is: http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/ DB2 was also only funded by IBM on the premise that DB2 would increase disk storage sales: http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/database_apps/s...

Re: Poll: Sequel or S-Q-L?

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post #44
post #21

Sequel, as in "my sequel" because it takes less time. I gravitated to this when I started having to use the term a lot more. Interestingly, I still say "post gray ess queue ell", dunno why. Actually, more often I'll just say "post grays" because the "SQL" at the end doesn't help disambiguate from anything else that starts with "postgre"

I'm pretty sure PostgreSQL is intended to be pronounced "post-gress-q-l", given its relationship to Ingres ("in-gress").

I've always called it just postgress, perhaps because of that reason.
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