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Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

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Re: Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

#151

Whats stopping us from having longer phone numbers. Everyone i care about talking to can scan a QR code or something. Also it would be awesome to have seperate outgoing and incoming numbers so i cant get added to a call list when i contact a business.

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Re: Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

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Hopefully this is the first domino that ends all this crap. Myself and everyone I know has been getting hammered with spam robo-calls for the past year or two with no signs of slowing down. I don't even answer my phone anymore unless I know who's calling.

Yes, amazed at how many local numbers are spam. I get three a lot: 1. Vacation Rewards Center - selling cruises I think 2. Business line of credit - their phrasing make it sound like I called them ("Hey, just getting back to you about that $15k line of credit) 3. Tax scare tactics, trying to settle debt or penalties I didn't know who feel for this stuff until I talked to an older gentleman who said he got these calls…

I get voice mails (calls I don't recognize and don't pick up, but in area code calls) in Chinese about once a week --weird.

Re: Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

#153
post #122

What an asshole. His whole line of logic seems to be: * Open source software and long distance companies make it too easy * Why didn't they stop me? * They should have regulated me. * Other people do it worse.

I can kind of understand his point though. We have the technology to stop this, but the companies don't care enough to try. We face the same problem with DDOS attacks and ISPs. It's too easy to do, and it's easy to stop, but unless people are able to influence companies with their wallets, we won't get anywhere.

Re: Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

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post #2

Hopefully this is the first domino that ends all this crap. Myself and everyone I know has been getting hammered with spam robo-calls for the past year or two with no signs of slowing down. I don't even answer my phone anymore unless I know who's calling.

> I don't even answer my phone anymore unless I know who's calling. I have considered enabling a feature that blocks all calls unless the caller is in my contacts list but I am concerned about missing something important. Any thoughts on this?

I use Google Voice.

I send all calls that block the caller ID automatically to voicemail.

If I get repeated spam voicemails from the same number, I manually add it to a contact called “Block”. The next time they call they get a special voicemail message I recorded telling them the number is no longer in service.

This system has worked well for years.

Re: Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

#155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"this call is in reference to your credit account...there are no current problems with your account, please press 1 to be connected to an operator that can share an amazing opportunity for you $something" I've never clicked '1', and never felt I've missed out, but I've gotten that same call from local numbers in my same block maybe 50 times already this year.

I always punch 1. I feel its my civic duty to waste 10 minutes of their time (usually while speaking in my best Monty Python accents). The interesting thing is that I usually only get a person 1/2 the time. The system just glitches to hangup the rest of the time.

I get these things multiple times per day.

Re: Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

#156
post #2

Hopefully this is the first domino that ends all this crap. Myself and everyone I know has been getting hammered with spam robo-calls for the past year or two with no signs of slowing down. I don't even answer my phone anymore unless I know who's calling.

It's actually wrecking the utility of the telephone.

Re: Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

#157
post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why bother calling if you are not even going to attempt to scam me. I think it might be something silly like confirming the number has a person on the other end. For selling to other spammers. Not sure why they can't do both at once though, so maybe I'm off.

They call more people than they have available to answer the phone at the other side. Normally, many phones won't answer. When more phones answer, they just hang on the ones they can't handle. And, obviously, they can save a bit by always having more phones answer than they can handle. This way their employees don't waste any time waiting for a call, instead it's your time that is wasted, what costs them nothing.

And they can save your number to call back later.

Re: Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

#158
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm baffled that telcos allow this, regardless of regulations. I get so many robocalls, I stopped answering my phone. But when I get a FaceTime call or an iMessage, I'm on it. Robocalls dilute the trust consumers have in the phone system. The telcos are rapidly ceding this trust to other forms of communication -- those provided Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook etc. As robocalls proliferate, tech companies win and telc…

Telcos are usually your ISP, so they win either way.

And they can upsell you to VOIP service which offers more controls on incoming calls.

Re: Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

#159
post #16

I've frequently wondered why, in this day and age, telcos are permitted to provide telephone service without any guarantee whatsoever of the originating phone number being accurate.

Part of it is that their are legitimate reasons to spoof CallerID such as when a company wants to set all outgoing calls to show the main company name and number, even when the call originates from a direct inbound dial line. Carriers could block calls from numbers that supposedly don't exist or dial out--and I believe some are starting to offer than as a service. But if they spoof as a real number, that won't work.…

The phone companies could only allow spoofing caller ID to a number you already use. That should be easy enough.

Re: Man Accused of Making 97M Robocalls

#160

I've frequently wondered why, in this day and age, telcos are permitted to provide telephone service without any guarantee whatsoever of the originating phone number being accurate.

I think they have to allow it so that services like call forwarding work.

Getting a call with the caller ID showing the number you forwarded the call from should be sufficient.
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