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The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Is there a reason why everybody just HAS to stick to the RPi's when the BeagleBone Black/Green/Blue/etc. are: 1) Far more open (you can get documentation and chip supply to build your own BeagleBone) 2) No more expensive 3) Mainline Debian

As open as they are, they still aren't fully open. For me, that means there really isn't any point to them.

I'd take a 486 DX4 SoC with no better than VGA output if it was entirely open.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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I think the main issues with all of these rasbi alternatives is the software. As ... quirky ... as the rasbi is, the software support and optimisation is excellent. There are several speed comparisons on youtube where the rasbi beats a lot of the competition through sheer software optimisation. Honestly, without complete Upstream Kernel support and Open Sourcing of all necessary drivers, none of these Boards is reall…

Software can be fixed by a large enough number of developers and users. Where the Raspberry Pi wins is community. I've got so many other boards but none of them work quite as well as the Pi.

Where the Raspberry Pi wins is community.

From what I've observed, the community feels almost like a walled garden in terms of mentality: if you're doing what everyone else is doing, it's great. If you try to go beyond that, don't be surprised if you encounter hostility or discouragement.

By "go beyond that", I mean simple things like trying to find the electrical specifications of the GPIO pins. The comments here are worth reading, for example: http://tansi.info/rp/interfacing5v.html

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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I've only ever had corruption issues on Raspi's, versus with the OrangePi's we have in production at customers sites, I have yet to see any mSD card issues. We do screen our Evo+ mSD cards pretty aggressively for issues though! One nice thing about Allwinner based SBCs is the strong development community that mainlines support for their chips in short order. Few other chip vendors have mainline support, which makes t…

This is a common theme in these SBC threads, but I've also had a pretty good experience with microSD cards in the Pi—one time I had corruption after unplugging the Pi. Two things that are immensely helpful if you want a stable experience with the Pi: 1. A good power supply. 2. A good microSD card. Most cheap power supplies (like those you get free with a phone) don't supply 2A or more consistently, which the newer Pi…

Indeed, I've had nothing but good experiences with Samsung EVO and SanDisk Ultra cards.

BTW, your link seems to end up on your front page, rather than the card comparison article.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Tinkerboard has amazingly performant GPU. Peak performance is 81.6GFlops, comparable to mid-range desktop GPUs from 2007 (e.g. GeForce 8400 GS had 67 GFlops, GeForce 8600 GT had 114 GFlops). It also supports 4k HDMI output resolution. RPi is more compatible i.e. the software stack supports OpenGL. But for cases where it’s OK to code against GLES, Mali-T764 is awesome. I once used NanoVG to build a very nice looking r…

does it require codes to unlock native x264 processing, like the RBP does (or did, back when I used it)? Also, does it have hardware support for HEVC? My poor RBP 2 can't handle HEVC at all.

In my experience with the Pi, H.264 is baked-in, but you need a license key for MPEG-2 (a necessity if you're dealing with ATSC footage) or VC-1.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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4k60p too! I'm working on a simply Yocto image that will autoplay a music video. It will serve as a nice test camera source for the medical device recorders I develop. https://github.com/pauldotknopf/rockchip-camera-source I still got to work out some kernel panics, but when it's done, I can just dd an image to an SD card. It beats the $10,000 medical camera I currently use :) I am currently using a Yocto image for R…

What camera do you use with the Tinker?

Tinker only does 4k30, I need 4k60. I'm currently using a RaspPi for 1080p60, but I am configuring the ROCK64 now.

Also, in case you misunderstood, I'm not using a camera with these devices, I am using these devices as a camera. I plug the HDMI out directly into my capture device to test capture/rendering/encoding/etc. Previously, I had to use a real camera and point it at a move to get some nice motion and color. Now, I just power on my RaspPi and use the HDMI out. Our assembly line now also uses them to burn in our devices.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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I've been looking at the new Rockchip RK3399 based devboards. Of note is the $99 Rock960[1]. The major draws for me are the DisplayPort support, so I can use it with my iPad 3/4 display controller board, M.2 PCIe 4-lane, eMMC, 802.11ac. Firefly makes a similar one as well. [2] 1. https://www.96boards.org/product/rock960/ 2. http://shop.t-firefly.com/goods.php?id=45

Hi, Jagger

Founder of Vamrs, ROCK960 manufacturer here, iPad 3/4 display is eDP interface and you can drive with RK3399 directly, you don't need DP and controller board. ROCK960 doesn't export eDP due to the small size, ROCK960 EE version has eDP exported.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

#87
Our IoT service uses the RPi2. We will move to the RPi3 when our stock runs out.

In our B2B application, the Pi's are just headless data collectors and all C code and data normally runs in RAM with the SSD card only written to as a backup if the device loses Internet connectivity (rare). The SSD card's system partition is configured as read only and we have had no problems with data corruption.

I think many people are trying to use these small computers for things that were not intended. The RPi's are cheap, well supported, and more than powerful enough for the price. If you need more power, spend more on some of the other options or step up to a full computer.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

#88
post #26

Has anyone got any experience with this one? http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code... I'm thinking about buying two of them and using them as a NAS with offsite mirroring for critical data/important documents.

If you are building NAS for critical data just get a proper NAS board. If you don’t want to go for an embedded X86 then this one is a good option it comes with ECC memory and decent enough crypto acceleration for full encryption. https://kobol.io/helios4/

Or use S3 or equivalent. Who will know how how to take care of your personal NAS when you're dead?

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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We use H3 based boards, but the H5 seems to be fairly mature. I know its been under heavy development wrt mainline kernel support for the last year, might want to take a peek at the status matrix: https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort#Status_Matri...

H3 was already quite old back when we looked. The support offered by Allwinner for old chips (like the H3) back then was basically "If you're buying a ton, sure we'll support!", which was very off-putting. H5's mainline support is still lacking in key areas. I2C, I2S, and cpufreq are deal-breakers for our product. Of course, combined with the fact that it will soon be out of support for a not-huge-buyer like us, it i…

Sure, none of these chips are new, and the older models (which are easily & cheaply accessible) have mainline support. I wouldn't expect jack from Allwinner besides their crummy kernel 3.4 branch, but that is the beauty in mainline support, you aren't limited to what Allwinner supports!
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