California Opens Investigation into Tesla Workplace Conditions

Post by mschuster91 » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 10:04 PM UTC

whyaduck wrote: post #138

mschuster91 wrote: post #108

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> they're low margin and labor intensive ... and thus very vulnerable to strikes or arbitrary price hikes. Yes, a seat is a seat, but once you're locked in into a vendor, you are locked in. Tesla wants to avoid lock-ins as far as possible and especially something where a switch to a different manufacturer is as difficult as a seat. You can switch a vendor for a simple plastic part in a matter of days if the need aris…

"and thus very vulnerable to strikes or arbitrary price hikes" If they have professional supply chain and commercial departments they'll have contingencies in place for situations like this.

Post by protomyth » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 10:10 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #99

briandear wrote: post #87

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California law DOES protect whistleblowers. The law is extremely clear. Those laws even provide for damages due to retailiation.

So why are people still afraid to talk, then? It's obvious that either the law isn't as crystal clear, the law does not prevent companies from writing FUD into employment contracts or that people are not educated well enough about their rights. Or: that they have economic pressure (e.g. no 3 months of savings, like way too many people have!) to stay in their job and thus cannot afford to lose it by ratting out illega…

Post by Semirhage » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 10:15 PM UTC

komali2 wrote: post #143

mabufo wrote: post #60

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What are you skeptical about? That this person's friend is actually injured? That it happened because of tesla? People get injured at work. Maybe not where YOU work, but it absolutely happens. Also, the subtext of your comment - that this person OF COURSE would have contacted a news organization if their claim was legitimate is frankly very weird.

I am skeptical by default of anything on the internet posted on forums with nothing more than an email requirement. I voice this skepticism because as a hobby I lie on reddit profusely and then track this misinformation, sometimes for years later. I've seen unfactual "memes" spread across reddit like wildfire, such as "eating honey prevents allergies." It's often traceable to a single sub-tree comment in a single pop…

Post by greglindahl » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 10:28 PM UTC

pboutros wrote: post #132

netsec_burn wrote: post #102

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Because we all want Tesla to succeed. It's competition in an industry that needs what Tesla is trying to bring to market. It will also greatly benefit the American economy to be the first to mass produce inexpensive electric cars. So personally, I read comments like yours and wonder who you are and why you feel it is necessary to be critical of that motive.

It's important to look at everything with a critical lens, especially the stuff you support. Tesla is deeply flawed, and in order for it to succeed, it needs to overcome those flaws.

Post by bwilliams18 » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 10:31 PM UTC

usaphp wrote: post #62

> It was difficult to find employees to go on the record. Like a lot of tech companies in Silicon Valley, workers signed non-disclosure agreements. NDAs usually are put in place so workers don't share any trade secrets or proprietary technology. So some workers were scared to talk to us because of this NDA they sign for working at Tesla. Damn, so workers were afraid to speak up and spread the injury info because they…