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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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They have a newer version that can handle custom isolated tab groups not just Facebook. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-account...

The Facebook container is the "newer" extension, IIRC, released after the Cambridge Analytica news. Both extensions use an API called contextualIdentities: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/AP...

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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You can be logged into multiple Google Accounts at the same time without the extension. Just click the little profile icon in the top right and click "Add Account." I'm logged into four, including a Gapps account.

Have they fixed the issues though where some of their apps only work with the primary account you're logged in with? (e.g. the first one)

No. I use this feature daily, and have to login to my "primary" Google ID for my Drive/Calendar, then I "Add Account" to enable my secondary/tertiary ID's. It has to be in that order.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Third party cookies, and any way to fingerprint a specific user starting from high entropy user agents to screen resolution, font fingerprinting or canvas data, should be considered a breach of the browser security model. All sites should run in containers and no advertiser should be able to track you across sessions. When I want 3rd party interaction, I should need to opt in and connect the current site with Faceboo…

Ever encountered Google ReCaptcha when you've turned off third party cookies or while in incognito/private mode? It's a nightmare, even if you're logged into a Google account. You can be shown upto 7-8 challenges, painfully slow loading images and Google's insistence that they encountered malicious traffic from your IP when attempting to use the audio version. What's even worse is they track your mouse movements and…

I got very sick of this crap from Google, which is why I switched my default search engine to DuckDuckGo.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Made a jump to Firefox as primary browser on macOS this month. My setup involves heavy use of the new containers feature and a tree-style vertical tab panel, which AFAIK is unique to Firefox and offers neat visual browsing history. Extension rundown: — kesselborn’s Conex, a Spotlight-like quick container switcher/tab finder. It’s set to auto-hide tabs not in the current container, and I use it to routinely create one…

Does using containers improve performance with many tabs open?

Can’t say for sure—haven’t used modern Firefox without containers. Last time was years ago, pre-Quantum, so it wouldn’t be a fair comparison.

Compared to other browsers, if anyone’s interested:

There was no perceived performance hit after migrating 60+ tabs from Safari and Chrome to Firefox. Browser startup time is definitely faster. For now it seems I no longer have to think about the number of tabs I have open.

I usually have fewer than a dozen tabs in any given container. With Conex, tabs in other containers don’t seem to get loaded unless I switch to them (tabs not in current container are hidden).

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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> tree-style vertical tab panel, which AFAIK is unique to Firefox For the major browsers, yes. Some Chromium off-shoots have them though.

I stand corrected, also I should’ve added “on Macs”. I’ve been keeping an eye on Doogie[0], but its maintainer doesn’t have the resources to maintain another build. Curious if anyone can weigh in with similar alternatives available on macOS. [0] https://cretz.github.io/doogie/

You're talking to the maintainer :-) Yeah, I don't use Apple products so looking for someone to do the work. In the meantime, I am not too familiar with mac alternatives, but these days CEF, QtWebEngine, etc aren't that difficult to use if you want to roll your own (mine is just Qt + CEF).

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Ever encountered Google ReCaptcha when you've turned off third party cookies or while in incognito/private mode? It's a nightmare, even if you're logged into a Google account. You can be shown upto 7-8 challenges, painfully slow loading images and Google's insistence that they encountered malicious traffic from your IP when attempting to use the audio version. What's even worse is they track your mouse movements and…

This is what finally made me switch my default search engine away from Google. I will put up with a lot of crap, but I'm not going to spend 60s to solve a CAPTCHA every time I do a search.

I've never seen a CAPTCHA when simply doing a search - is that because I refuse to log in to Google?

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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post #231

Third party cookies, and any way to fingerprint a specific user starting from high entropy user agents to screen resolution, font fingerprinting or canvas data, should be considered a breach of the browser security model. All sites should run in containers and no advertiser should be able to track you across sessions. When I want 3rd party interaction, I should need to opt in and connect the current site with Faceboo…

Ever encountered Google ReCaptcha when you've turned off third party cookies or while in incognito/private mode? It's a nightmare, even if you're logged into a Google account. You can be shown upto 7-8 challenges, painfully slow loading images and Google's insistence that they encountered malicious traffic from your IP when attempting to use the audio version. What's even worse is they track your mouse movements and…

I tried making a throwaway account on Protonmail account while on the Tor network. I swear, I probably had to go through 25 captchas before it worked.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Ever encountered Google ReCaptcha when you've turned off third party cookies or while in incognito/private mode? It's a nightmare, even if you're logged into a Google account. You can be shown upto 7-8 challenges, painfully slow loading images and Google's insistence that they encountered malicious traffic from your IP when attempting to use the audio version. What's even worse is they track your mouse movements and…

I've always had to solve 3-4 captchas. They are insufferable and I have simply stopped using most of the sites that use recaptcha unless they are vital to me. It feels like Google is using me as a mechanical turk to solve their autonomous car rubbish, which will make them millions, and I have no choice but to do it, or I'm barred from the sites I need to access. It's profoundly despicable, as if I didn't hate Google…

>It feels like Google is using me as a mechanical turk to solve their autonomous car rubbish

That explains why the majority of ReCaptchas I get are along the lines of "Click the squares that contain a street sign" or "Click the squares that contain a bicycle."

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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This is off-topic, and your idea of how Trump got elected is not the only — or even one of the popular — view. Closer to the topic: what Facebook enabled was far more effective targeting, by agents not authorized by the targets, on a massive scale. That's a lot different than the "bunch of Russians locked away in some computer lab single-handedly elected" rhetoric.

It's as on topic as the parent comment. I have to yet to see even a single fact to back up your claim. If someone is going to spread disinformation and not present any facts, then I am going to post a sourced rebuttal. Feel free to change my mind with actual facts instead of undermining the voters who disagreed with your political outlook and then blaming the results on some ludicrous notion of a bogeyman.

Yes, your parent comment introduced the topic of Trump's election, though still in the context of online tracking. Pardon my poor choice of words above.

> I have to yet to see even a single fact to back up your claim.

Here's the first result from a Google search I just did: https://www.wired.com/story/russian-facebook-ads-targeted-us...

> If someone is going to spread disinformation and not present any facts, then I am going to post a sourced rebuttal.

I don't see any sourced rebuttal.

> instead of undermining the voters

I didn't undermine any voters. I made no claims about any voters. I commented only on the targeting, and that the targets hadn't consented to their data being accessed.

> blaming the results on some ludicrous notion of a bogeyman.

A calmer rhetoric would be more productive to discourse. Targeted advertising is not a "bogeyman". Stolen data and privacy concerns are not bogeymen. That people put up lots of private info that can be used to accurately profile them is a fact. That ads can be effective has been proven from the time ads were invented, and that targeted ads can be even more effective — especially in a political context — has also been studied and concluded lots of times. See [1] and [2].

Frankly, now that you've brought up backing of claims, I'm a bit discouraged to have to defend stuff like this against clearly biased political rhetoric.

1: http://politics.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/978019022...

2: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/publications/a...

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Even in a corporate network there's some plugin drift over time depending on job role especially for developers. And GP specifically has installed a container add-on which probably makes him/her fairly unique among all the corporate traffic coming from that IP/group of IPs.

Most good corporate environments should be controlling what plugins they allow users to install in their browsers. (For the few users we permit to use Chrome, for example, all extensions are disabled.) But again, the issue is not your specific configuration (or GP's specific configuration), the point is that Google cannot assume same IP or browser fingerprint is a definitive association of identity, whereas signing i…

> Most good corporate environments should be controlling what plugins they allow users to install in their browsers.

For a very odd definition of the term 'good' I suppose that's may be the case. It's certainly not been in any place I've worked in the past 20 yrs.

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