Live data from Hacker News

Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

pine64.org

161–170 of 250 posts

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#161
post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not hard to rebuild old laptop battery packs with new 18650 cells.

Can you recommend a good place to get new 18650 cells? I live in Norway. I’ve been wanting to order some but obviously don’t want to buy them from some rando off of eBay because I don’t trust that they will 1. actually be new, and 2. that even if they are new they won’t explode in my face

Norway? Isn't Nkon next to your door?

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#162
A few things....

Pinebook uses a Mali GPU, which if I understand correctly relies on closed binaries to run though it looks like that is changing: https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/09/26/allwinner-socs-with-...

Also my personal experience with this laptop was less than stellar. This was last May (before Firefox Quantum), but I opened it, tried to do some things, and immediately closed it because it's absolutely too slow to use as a laptop. Definitely cool as a terminal. I ended up putting it back in the box and donating it as a prize for an event

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#163
post #146
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question. Why don't people buy old laptops instead of cheaper new ones? Because the batteries are knackered and new ones aren’t available for old models. Tho’ this does vary by vendor. Chinese knock-off batteries are usually available but carry their own risks.

It's not hard to rebuild old laptop battery packs with new 18650 cells.

I've tried rebuilding the battery for an x220 twice and both times the battery case ended up too damaged to be used. I'm about to fork over $100+ for my forth battery for this machine.

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#164
post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you recommend a good place to get new 18650 cells? I live in Norway. I’ve been wanting to order some but obviously don’t want to buy them from some rando off of eBay because I don’t trust that they will 1. actually be new, and 2. that even if they are new they won’t explode in my face

Norway? Isn't Nkon next to your door?

Never heard of Nkon. If you mean in the almost literal sense then I think you might be conflating Norway and the Netherlands? But if you just mean that they are next door in terms of being in Europe then yes so it seems. I’ll have a look at them thanks, along with the others people have mentioned.

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#165
post #83

I'm also working on an ARM notebook in the spirit of Novena called Reform: http://mntmn.com/reform/ This version is 32-bit, but it has 4 cores @ 1.2GHz and 4GB of RAM. Also, it is actually open source, meaning that all the electronic design files (made in KiCAD) are available on GitHub and as soon as we have decided on the correct formats the same will be true for the mechanical/case parts, so you will be even able t…

> I don't know how you can sustainably make a laptop and sell it for $100

I assume that this product was able to source laptop parts from a factory that already had production set up for generic android notebooks or something like that, which would help keeping the prices down.

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#166
post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Norway? Isn't Nkon next to your door?

Never heard of Nkon. If you mean in the almost literal sense then I think you might be conflating Norway and the Netherlands? But if you just mean that they are next door in terms of being in Europe then yes so it seems. I’ll have a look at them thanks, along with the others people have mentioned.

Yes, I meant that-end-of-EU, sorry for coming off cheeky. Winning the great EU customs roulette with batteries is not worth it if there is an OKish intraEU seller. Plus, a lot of discussions about it's batteries in .ru (!) internets.

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#167
post #146
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question. Why don't people buy old laptops instead of cheaper new ones? Because the batteries are knackered and new ones aren’t available for old models. Tho’ this does vary by vendor. Chinese knock-off batteries are usually available but carry their own risks.

It's not hard to rebuild old laptop battery packs with new 18650 cells.

It's often not easy, either. It very much depends on the battery and the used controller. Make sure to always have enough voltage on the controller, since it might shutdown on power loss, leaving you with a battery with '0.0Wh capacity', regardless of the new cells. Also, some battery packs might require you to solder the cells, which is not for the faint of heart.

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#168
post #83

I'm also working on an ARM notebook in the spirit of Novena called Reform: http://mntmn.com/reform/ This version is 32-bit, but it has 4 cores @ 1.2GHz and 4GB of RAM. Also, it is actually open source, meaning that all the electronic design files (made in KiCAD) are available on GitHub and as soon as we have decided on the correct formats the same will be true for the mechanical/case parts, so you will be even able t…

What's the graphics driver situation like on i.MX6? Is Etnaviv decent?

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#169

I have this laptop. The beauty of it is that it is unashamedly bad. It is the humblest of laptops. The body is a direct copy of the 13" MacBook Air. As a computer, it is at least as usable as a Raspberry Pi. The teardown photos are hilarious because the motherboard only takes up about 1/6 the internal space. The rest is empty. https://hackaday.com/2017/04/28/hands-on-with-the-pinebook/ It comes with Ubuntu 16.04, but…

> The teardown photos are hilarious because the motherboard only takes up about 1/6 the internal space. The rest is empty. https://hackaday.com/2017/04/28/hands-on-with-the-pinebook/

As mentioned in that review, the software part seems to be a problem area for Pine. That could also be why it's cheap (because it's mainly the hardware alone that one is paying for). I got the original Pine64 board through the crowdfunding campaign, and I found the distro images provided to be lacking and also not kept updated. I wanted to use it like a headless server/NAS kind of setup with VNC access to run other programs as necessary, but found that a bit too hard to get done. So it's just been gathering dust since then.

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#170
post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Norway? Isn't Nkon next to your door?

Never heard of Nkon. If you mean in the almost literal sense then I think you might be conflating Norway and the Netherlands? But if you just mean that they are next door in terms of being in Europe then yes so it seems. I’ll have a look at them thanks, along with the others people have mentioned.

Hey, also live in Norway, I've ordered from NKON before, just use https://ru.nkon.nl (we're outside the EU VAT region).
Post reply on HN