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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

icc97 wrote: post #180
dredmorbius wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it does not. I browse Reddit on mobile in Incognito mode in Chrome, frequently, for various reasons. This means that there is no cookie history, and (when Chrome shits its pants and dumps the Incognito session), the settings are lost. This seems to occur every few days, occasionally every few hours. Reminds me a lot of Netscape 4 days. Every. Fucking. Goddamned. Time. I go to Reddit, I get: 1. The "Use our Mobile…

I don't know if you've come across i.reddit e.g. [0], I only heard about it a few weeks ago, but it's an old mobile site from reddit with nice simple styling and all the shite taken out. No popups for the stupid app. I don't understand the drive to force people to use the app. Medium trys similar but less annoying tactics. Either way you get eyeballs on your site. Perhaps there's better tracking that they can get hol…

Presumably most app users aren't blocking adverts, or the app can more easily refuse to show content of ads aren't present.

Apps will cut down multi-site use too, stop users "changing the dial".

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

Accacin wrote: post #218
brandmeyer wrote: post #102

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There are at least two mobile reddit interfaces, and one of them does not do this popup junk. The other one is obtained by adding the /.compact suffix, like https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/.compact

That's great when you want to browse Reddit, but often I find Reddit an actual good source for information so I'll click the link from the search engine that then takes me to the "real mobile version" which has the popup.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/

according to comments works for this specific purpose. Haven't used it myself.

I was hoping ublock did it but doesn't appear to.

If i.reddit.com is a different IP then a hosts file entry might do it.

Does pi-hole do this?

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by mjburgess »

ldjb wrote: post #262
mih wrote: post #231

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Ever encountered Google ReCaptcha when you've turned off third party cookies or while in incognito/private mode? It's a nightmare, even if you're logged into a Google account. You can be shown upto 7-8 challenges, painfully slow loading images and Google's insistence that they encountered malicious traffic from your IP when attempting to use the audio version. What's even worse is they track your mouse movements and…

The optimist in me thinks that if browsers started to disallow third party cookies, ReCaptcha might have to adapt to the change and make it easier to solve if third party cookies are blocked. After all, if they didn't, they'd risk website owners moving away from ReCaptcha because visitors could no longer interact with the site. The pessimist in me thinks that if a browser were to disallow third party cookies, users m…

Users tend to blame websites rather than browsers when the websites don't work. So by using bad CAPTCHAs, i'd guess, users would more liekly blame those sites using them.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by iamnothere »

mih wrote: post #231
cornholio wrote: post #200

Third party cookies, and any way to fingerprint a specific user starting from high entropy user agents to screen resolution, font fingerprinting or canvas data, should be considered a breach of the browser security model. All sites should run in containers and no advertiser should be able to track you across sessions. When I want 3rd party interaction, I should need to opt in and connect the current site with Faceboo…

Ever encountered Google ReCaptcha when you've turned off third party cookies or while in incognito/private mode? It's a nightmare, even if you're logged into a Google account. You can be shown upto 7-8 challenges, painfully slow loading images and Google's insistence that they encountered malicious traffic from your IP when attempting to use the audio version. What's even worse is they track your mouse movements and…

This is what finally made me switch my default search engine away from Google. I will put up with a lot of crap, but I'm not going to spend 60s to solve a CAPTCHA every time I do a search.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by stevespang »

z29LiTp5qUC30n wrote: post #290
mih wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever encountered Google ReCaptcha when you've turned off third party cookies or while in incognito/private mode? It's a nightmare, even if you're logged into a Google account. You can be shown upto 7-8 challenges, painfully slow loading images and Google's insistence that they encountered malicious traffic from your IP when attempting to use the audio version. What's even worse is they track your mouse movements and…

ReCaptcha means to me that I need to blacklist your site and never come back. F@ck that noise

Yeah, I 2nd that motion.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by amelius »

amelius wrote: post #274

IMHO, this is how containers should really work: - Every website (domain) should get its own container by default. I don't want to configure stuff when visiting a new domain. - If I want domains to share a container, then I don't mind having to configure that. - When clicking a link inside a container that points to a different domain, then the link should open in the container for the domain pointed to. - When click…

Btw, the ground rule I used here is that the amount of "security-related mental-gymnastics" I have to perform to stay on the safe side during normal browsing should be zero.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by nabc45 »

mih wrote: post #231
cornholio wrote: post #200

Third party cookies, and any way to fingerprint a specific user starting from high entropy user agents to screen resolution, font fingerprinting or canvas data, should be considered a breach of the browser security model. All sites should run in containers and no advertiser should be able to track you across sessions. When I want 3rd party interaction, I should need to opt in and connect the current site with Faceboo…

Ever encountered Google ReCaptcha when you've turned off third party cookies or while in incognito/private mode? It's a nightmare, even if you're logged into a Google account. You can be shown upto 7-8 challenges, painfully slow loading images and Google's insistence that they encountered malicious traffic from your IP when attempting to use the audio version. What's even worse is they track your mouse movements and…

I've always had to solve 3-4 captchas. They are insufferable and I have simply stopped using most of the sites that use recaptcha unless they are vital to me.

It feels like Google is using me as a mechanical turk to solve their autonomous car rubbish, which will make them millions, and I have no choice but to do it, or I'm barred from the sites I need to access. It's profoundly despicable, as if I didn't hate Google enough already.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by vanous »

mih wrote: post #231
cornholio wrote: post #200

Third party cookies, and any way to fingerprint a specific user starting from high entropy user agents to screen resolution, font fingerprinting or canvas data, should be considered a breach of the browser security model. All sites should run in containers and no advertiser should be able to track you across sessions. When I want 3rd party interaction, I should need to opt in and connect the current site with Faceboo…

Ever encountered Google ReCaptcha when you've turned off third party cookies or while in incognito/private mode? It's a nightmare, even if you're logged into a Google account. You can be shown upto 7-8 challenges, painfully slow loading images and Google's insistence that they encountered malicious traffic from your IP when attempting to use the audio version. What's even worse is they track your mouse movements and…

This has been a huge problem of mine when using tor, after disabling 3rd party cookies and also using Firefox containers. Took me two days to just love duck duck go and now it's been set on my laptop, phone and all tables, where Firefox with uBlock origin are to browse the web.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by snthd »

mih wrote: post #231
cornholio wrote: post #200

Third party cookies, and any way to fingerprint a specific user starting from high entropy user agents to screen resolution, font fingerprinting or canvas data, should be considered a breach of the browser security model. All sites should run in containers and no advertiser should be able to track you across sessions. When I want 3rd party interaction, I should need to opt in and connect the current site with Faceboo…

Ever encountered Google ReCaptcha when you've turned off third party cookies or while in incognito/private mode? It's a nightmare, even if you're logged into a Google account. You can be shown upto 7-8 challenges, painfully slow loading images and Google's insistence that they encountered malicious traffic from your IP when attempting to use the audio version. What's even worse is they track your mouse movements and…

Btw this exists: https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/11500199265...
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