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Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Indeed. When they said: > The unauthorized display of our client's intellectual property is likely to cause consumers encountering this app to mistakenly believe that it emanates from, or is provided under a license from, Oracle. I think most of us would agree that no , literally almost no one familiar with JavaScript would have believed that app to “emanate from, or be provided under a license from, Oracle”. I know…

" When I think of JS, Oracle is like the last company I would think of." - Check out Oracle JET (JavaScript Toolkit), it's an open source library for modern web developers : https://github.com/oracle/oraclejet

Wait, Oracle? On GITHUB? Now I have seen everything...

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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It is unfortunate that "ECMAScript" is simply a terrible name. I understand why the term is used, but that doesn't make it inherently good, easy to say, or memorable. Fortunately the ES shorthand is more workable (e.g. ES6, ES2017, etc).

TLS has the same problem. Everybody knows SSL and everybody wants to keep saying SSL.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Mainly I think it just sounds really grating to anyone outside America, as it's not used elsewhere. Similar to "I could care less".

I'm outside America, and I hear it all the time.

English-speaking country?

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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But the root of all evil is believing there is only one truth and that you are in possession of it.

Do you truly believe that? Just asking ...

Do you?

Seems like it struck a nerve with a lot of people. Not sure what their problem is.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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If you have a pretty low opinion of Oracle just because of that, you don't know much about Oracle.

Are you saying the reality is much worse? Or that Oracle has a bright side?

There isn't a bright side about Oracle, not even using their products.

It's old school software selling, influence the decision maker and the job is done

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Meh, I learned modern JavaScript and dove deep into how JS works over the last year and I think it’s probably one of my favorite dynamic languages if not my most favorite one. The syntax is a nice sweet spot, the semantics make more sense in most situations than Ruby or Python, the lacking standard library has been more than made up for by third part packages. I’d love to work in JS in the future which isn’t somethin…

Try maintaining and extending a codebase founded on all those third party packages, over a period of several years

It's all the clever metaprogramming fads that ensures JavaScript code bases are unmaintainable goo.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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" When I think of JS, Oracle is like the last company I would think of." - Check out Oracle JET (JavaScript Toolkit), it's an open source library for modern web developers : https://github.com/oracle/oraclejet

Which no 'modern' web developer would go anywhere near!

What the hell is this...

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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I knew that Microsoft had to call their ECMAScript implementation JScript, but it never dawned on me that Oracle is the current owner of the "JavaScript" trademark: http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=2416017&caseSearchType=US_... Between this and Oracle's ongoing lawsuit against Google for their use of Java in Android, I have a pretty low opinion of Oracle.

It’s also the trademark owner of “MySQL”, which I discovered when Google AdWords rejected some of my client’s ads for having “MySQL” in them (the client’s product integrates with the database).

I spent weeks and many back-and-forth emails and calls with AdWords support trying to explain that 1) our use of the term is well within Oracle’s guidelines, and 2) no, I am not going to contact Oracle to fill out a permission form for me.

It didn’t work. Not even with Level 2 support.

Thankfully, AdWords policy enforcement is completely random and nonsensical so I just duplicated the ads several times until one of them did not get flagged.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Heh and adding on to that... "the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil"

But the root of all evil is believing there is only one truth and that you are in possession of it.

I thought it was premature optimisation.
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