Fuck it, let's just call it ECMAScript and be done with it. JavaScript was a purposefully horrible name to begin with (as other commenters have pointed out). One less thing Oracle can jerk us around on. I'm just going to call it ES or ECMAScript from now on. If enough people do it the matter will be settled.
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#132Edit: looks like he was suggested this in the Reddit thread and thought it was a good idea.
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#133Because "Ecmascript" sounds like a job for the Ghostbusters.
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It's one of the market leader in enterprise software and database for decades. Don't be just another hater.
I’ve never heard a developer say good things about Oracle databases though. Being the #1 doesn’t mean you’re right. It just means your ads work.
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This must be the reason that you can't say Legos online without being corrected.
Mainly I think it just sounds really grating to anyone outside America, as it's not used elsewhere. Similar to "I could care less".
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#137I knew that Microsoft had to call their ECMAScript implementation JScript, but it never dawned on me that Oracle is the current owner of the "JavaScript" trademark: http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=2416017&caseSearchType=US_... Between this and Oracle's ongoing lawsuit against Google for their use of Java in Android, I have a pretty low opinion of Oracle.
Indeed. When they said: > The unauthorized display of our client's intellectual property is likely to cause consumers encountering this app to mistakenly believe that it emanates from, or is provided under a license from, Oracle. I think most of us would agree that no , literally almost no one familiar with JavaScript would have believed that app to “emanate from, or be provided under a license from, Oracle”. I know…
Although really Oracle should have the sense to see the state of the landscape and just drop it. It's become a generic term - in fact, it always was.
Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app
#138I knew that Microsoft had to call their ECMAScript implementation JScript, but it never dawned on me that Oracle is the current owner of the "JavaScript" trademark: http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=2416017&caseSearchType=US_... Between this and Oracle's ongoing lawsuit against Google for their use of Java in Android, I have a pretty low opinion of Oracle.
If I had to explain Oracle to anyone I would only say that their motto is simply "Do all evil."
I am convinced if there was a crossroads with a payout of x dollars for both choices, but with a pretty nasty outcome for the community for choice y as the distinguishing factor, Oracle would pick y in a heartbeat.
I think a good description for Oracle is "the demon that pulls everyone down to hell with them..."
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#139It is unfortunate that "ECMAScript" is simply a terrible name. I understand why the term is used, but that doesn't make it inherently good, easy to say, or memorable. Fortunately the ES shorthand is more workable (e.g. ES6, ES2017, etc).
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Are you saying the reality is much worse? Or that Oracle has a bright side?
It's one of the market leader in enterprise software and database for decades. Don't be just another hater.
Where's the documentation for PeopleSoft which actually makes any sense? (I suspect the product itself no longer makes any sense, which would explain much).
It really feels like Oracle once had amazing technology but fell into the trap of an unmaintainable nightmare and have fallen back on the legal route to try to retain their dominance.